ack-ack Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Every holiday period I have to accept whatever dates are left available on the leave calender so that my work mates that have kids can spend time with their families. Consequently I end up having odd days here and there whilst they all clear out for upto three weeks at a time, only to come back to work beaming and wondering why I've got a face like a smacked whatsit. Is this discrimination? Does anybody else have to suck it up for the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkella Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Every holiday period I have to accept whatever dates are left available on the leave calender so that my work mates that have kids can spend time with their families. Consequently I end up having odd days here and there whilst they all clear out for upto three weeks at a time, only to come back to work beaming and wondering why I've got a face like a smacked whatsit. Is this discrimination? Does anybody else have to suck it up for the team? ack ack do you have to do this or are you just being nice thoughtful and considerate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 i have the same problem... I like to book time off work so can then go and work the festivals but cant do any in August as one lad books 4-5 weeks up in one go...which he gets allowed every year as he goes home to Tunisia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danddo Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Every holiday period I have to accept whatever dates are left available on the leave calender so that my work mates that have kids can spend time with their families. Consequently I end up having odd days here and there whilst they all clear out for upto three weeks at a time, only to come back to work beaming and wondering why I've got a face like a smacked whatsit. Is this discrimination? Does anybody else have to suck it up for the team? ack-ack you don't have to accept this, you choose to accept it. Your company should treat everyone equal and they employ either Mother/Father not the family. It sounds from your post that you would rather not accept this, I'm sure if you took leave over someone with a family they would have something to say, if you can live with that without ruining your working relationship go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 ack ack do you have to do this or are you just being nice thoughtful and considerate? When I started here last September I was told that the policy regarding taking leave was priority to parents. I didn't rock the boat at the time as I was made up to have landed the job. When I asked for a week off in mid August they suggested I had a week off in September instead. No use to me whatso ever. It doesn't help that my GF is a teacher and I wont get a chance to go away with her this summer. Its pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 When I started here last September I was told that the policy regarding taking leave was priority to parents. I didn't rock the boat at the time as I was made up to have landed the job. When I asked for a week off in mid August they suggested I had a week off in September instead. No use to me whatso ever. It doesn't help that my GF is a teacher and I wont get a chance to go away with her this summer. Its pants. why dont you have a kid then?? problem solved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danddo Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 When I started here last September I was told that the policy regarding taking leave was priority to parents. I didn't rock the boat at the time as I was made up to have landed the job. When I asked for a week off in mid August they suggested I had a week off in September instead. No use to me whatso ever. It doesn't help that my GF is a teacher and I wont get a chance to go away with her this summer. Its pants. Having read the above you seem to be in a difficult situation, as the policy sucks, have a word with the management and explain the situation with your GF, your relationship with her is as important, to you, as someone with a family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Every holiday period I have to accept whatever dates are left available on the leave calender so that my work mates that have kids can spend time with their families. Consequently I end up having odd days here and there whilst they all clear out for upto three weeks at a time, only to come back to work beaming and wondering why I've got a face like a smacked whatsit. Is this discrimination? Does anybody else have to suck it up for the team? You have this a bit twisted Mr Ackne, it's because you have a face like a "smacked whatsit" that you have no wife and no kids so you have to take the pain. Now think about this.... pain is having to pay through the nose for anything connected with holidays during school holiday times.... especially flights and hotels..... THIS IS PAIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkella Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 why dont you have a kid then?? problem solved lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danddo Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 why dont you have a kid then?? problem solved that's another way :yes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 ack-ack you don't have to accept this, you choose to accept it. Your company should treat everyone equal and they employ either Mother/Father not the family. It sounds from your post that you would rather not accept this, I'm sure if you took leave over someone with a family they would have something to say, if you can live with that without ruining your working relationship go for it. There are only four of us in the organisation, two of whom I have to share an office with so I don't want to make it frosty but I'm not prepared to accept the current situation. I've just pencilled myself in for a weeks leave over christmas. Yeah! Sticking it to the man!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danddo Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I've just pencilled myself in for a weeks leave over christmas. Yeah! Sticking it to the man!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Being slightly more serious. Doesn't it need to just be fair and reasonable.... anyway, the kids holiday in the summer is 6 ish weeks so there must be space for compromise if they are taking 3 weeks in this time... surely you can have yours as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkella Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Isnt this an ism or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Being slightly more serious. Doesn't it need to just be fair and reasonable.... anyway, the kids holiday in the summer is 6 ish weeks so there must be space for compromise if they are taking 3 weeks in this time... surely you can have yours as well? My self and the boss function in much the same capacity so one of us always has to be in. He's taken three rounds of thursdays and fridays and has next week off also which has effectively torpedoed August. I don't begrudge him his time off as he's a top chap and we get on like a house on fire but nobody puts baby in the corner. To top it of we only have three cupboard doors in our kitchen in the office. I reckon I'll need about seven for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkella Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 My self and the boss function in much the same capacity so one of us always has to be in. He's taken three rounds of thursdays and fridays and has next week off also which has effectively torpedoed August. I don't begrudge him his time off as he's a top chap and we get on like a house on fire but nobody puts baby in the corner. To top it of we only have three cupboard doors in our kitchen in the office. I reckon I'll need about seven for this one. ack ack I have spare printers and a window if required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 My self and the boss function in much the same capacity so one of us always has to be in. He's taken three rounds of thursdays and fridays and has next week off also which has effectively torpedoed August. I don't begrudge him his time off as he's a top chap and we get on like a house on fire but nobody puts baby in the corner. To top it of we only have three cupboard doors in our kitchen in the office. I reckon I'll need about seven for this one. Tricky. Booking ahead is a good thing .... put up a holiday calender on the wall so they all show and it can be obvious to all if someone is taking the mickey. This way if he want days you have already booked you will not be on the back foot... he will have to ask you to compromise.... vital if you are booking flights. Less critical if you are just popping over to the landrover dealership for more spares. Keep a copy of previous years holiday for reference and explaining fairness. So you did not bite on my jokes above - disappointing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lksopener Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Simply no I suppose I'm a selfish **** but I take my holidays when I want them not when someone tells me I can! Having said that I do normally have holidays booked 18 months in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) I wish I could take my hols outside the blooming school holidays, but as my wife works school time and I dont believe in taking the kids out of school I have to suck up paying about a third more to go away that I would if I went in June or September! Although with my team its first come first served although I do try and encourage people to spread about as much as possible over the summer hols. Edited August 23, 2013 by Zetter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laird Lugton Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I sympathise with you Ack-Ack. For me the shoe is on the other foot. For 12 years I have taken leave outside the school holidays in order that those with kids get maximum chances of time with their kids. Now I am in the position of needing school holidays and I'll be lucky if I can get a week every two years with the kids as their are no rules about who can do what. Allegedly my French colleagues are guaranteed by law two weeks every summer with their kids (if they want it) so guess who has to trot to France to cover for them..... Personally I think those with kids should get some form of priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 First up best dressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Personally I think those with kids should get some form of priority. You already do 'Parent & Child' parking spaces at the supermarket what more do ya want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 There are only four of us in the organisation, two of whom I have to share an office with so I don't want to make it frosty but I'm not prepared to accept the current situation. I've just pencilled myself in for a weeks leave over christmas. Yeah! Sticking it to the man!! Is this 'policy' written into a contract or is it simply a verbal recomendation? If its the latter just book the time off. Just remember it was their choice to have children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 You already do 'Parent & Child' parking spaces at the supermarket what more do ya want But those spaces get full of "very superior people" in BMW's and no kids ..... and old people in fiestas so parents cannot get in them 1/2 the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Personally I think those with kids should get some form of priority. why? kids are a life choice and inconvenience comes with that choice. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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