hodge911 Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 hi peeps after watching philmypower,s video on goose shooting I REALY want to have a go but I,m wondering if my gun will take steel shot it got full and half choke barrels and is chambered for 3" magnum cartridges ... then if it will is there any one up in the north east got any goose shooting that I can have a go with them don't mind using my vehicle and paying a small fee to be able to . have sacs membership , held s.g.c for 40yrs + Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 What proof marks does your gun have? Also - don't think you can restrict the choking passed 1/2 Is it fixed or multi choke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted October 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 will have a look and take pics of proof marks . fixed choke o/u which can take 3" magnum loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Why has this feller got to check his proof marks? It's three inch! The full choke is to tight matey....half is like full in steel! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Why has this feller got to check his proof marks? It's three inch! The full choke is to tight matey....half is like full in steel! U. Just because its 3" doesnt mean it actually has steel proof marks. I have a 3" gun which is not proofed for steel, as do many other people. Its only a higher pressure anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted October 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 I,ll get a choke gauge and double check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 This steel thing is bloody confusing, my al390 has 3 inch chambers and accoring to the proof marks its proofed for the same pressure as steel but hasn't got the steel shot proof stamp. Being the curious type I asked the gun smith, his reply was no worries if using under half choke and pointed out the yanks don't proof test for steel and have used the guns for years with no worries. I fiqure a small bit of steel here and there with quarter choke won't hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Just because its 3" doesnt mean it actually has steel proof marks. I have a 3" gun which is not proofed for steel, as do many other people. Its only a higher pressure anyway Oh......I thought a three inch shell no matter what it was loaded with had to errr to stay in three inch pressures! No? U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Oh......I thought a three inch shell no matter what it was loaded with had to errr to stay in three inch pressures! No? U. 3" pressure used to be 1200 bar, steel shot proof pressure is 1370 bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Full choke is the issue and a gauge is pointless as choke is a relative measurement to the bore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 wrong my lanber has steel proof at 1320 bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 wrong my lanber has steel proof at 1320 bar. All steel proofed guns i've looked at have been proofed to 1370 bar, not seen a 1320 bar. All the gun makers just like to do something different to everyone else so i'm not surprised. Interestingly i've got some 3" steel cartridges here which say " Use in guns proofed for steel shot at 1370bar ", whereas some other says " Use in guns proofed for steel shot at 1050bar " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) Depends if it HP steel or not BASC has a good guide on website! Edited October 6, 2013 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brent52 Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 steel proof guns have a fleu de le stamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 All very confusing....my 870 20g just says steel proof! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 All very confusing....my 870 20g just says steel proof! U. Does it not have the fleur de lys beside that and the pressure as well? Last remington i was looking at, an 11-87, had " Steel shot proof, the fleur de lys and 1370bar " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Does it not have the fleur de lys beside that and the pressure as well? Last remington i was looking at, an 11-87, had " Steel shot proof, the fleur de lys and 1370bar " will check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 http://www.basc.org.uk/download.cfm/docid/B2262167-CDF8-4E29-B081F27EC7D4B114 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 got a 686 whitewing never put steel through it but someone on here last year was telling how many wildfowl he,d with his using steel cartridges for years.there,s no fleur de lys but they are made of some superduper steel .there are otherposts on here from stuff it im putting steel through it peeps.and there still here to tell the tale.guess its look of the draw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted October 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 this is as clear as mud.... . think I,ll take it to W.G.R and ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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