BRNDL Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 So, pigeon man and me met up this morning 9am at the tennis club for a coffee, a sausage butty and to discuss a plan of action for securing new permission. We started knocking at 10am and I landed home for 13.30. We knocked at 10 farms between us and I did a further 3 on my return journey home. Unfortunately we didn't have any YES,s there and then and a lot of farms already have shooters...even some that seem to have crow issues had designated guns...but we didn't hear one shot all day! It is pretty deflating doing the rounds like that with no immediate return, but we did leave out letter for them to consider in the future. It did look promising at one stage, I knocked on the door of a farm house and was invited in to meet the man of the house, an old boy at 82yrs who was hard of hearing....we got on fine after I explained I didn't shoot sheep and cows but crows and pigeons! Haha. Unfortunately he didn't own much land and the farm was actually next door. We will keep on the hunt, I am ever the optimist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 i was thinking about how to obtain a permission, i had in mind going to the local farmers market whichever day its on that way i can catch loads of land owners in one go rather than going door to door. anyone else tried this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted October 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Going to try clitheroe markets soon I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus1988 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 i was thinking about how to obtain a permission, i had in mind going to the local farmers market whichever day its on that way i can catch loads of land owners in one go rather than going door to door. anyone else tried this I had thought of this approach, not tried it yet, let us know how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 i was thinking of Clitheroe & Gisburn as a possibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 So, pigeon man and me met up this morning 9am at the tennis club for a coffee, a sausage butty and to discuss a plan of action for securing new permission. We started knocking at 10am and I landed home for 13.30. We knocked at 10 farms between us and I did a further 3 on my return journey home. Unfortunately we didn't have any YES,s there and then and a lot of farms already have shooters...even some that seem to have crow issues had designated guns...but we didn't hear one shot all day! It is pretty deflating doing the rounds like that with no immediate return, but we did leave out letter for them to consider in the future. It did look promising at one stage, I knocked on the door of a farm house and was invited in to meet the man of the house, an old boy at 82yrs who was hard of hearing....we got on fine after I explained I didn't shoot sheep and cows but crows and pigeons! Haha. Unfortunately he didn't own much land and the farm was actually next door. We will keep on the hunt, I am ever the optimist. Never rule out a couple of acres,i have one permission that is just 6 fields, but the adjoining farm owner saw me shooting on it and spoke to "old Ted" a farmer in his 80's who uses twine to hold his trousers up,Ted told me on a visit to go and have a chat with the farm next door as he had a problem with rabbits and fox, so i did,a massive chicken farm with a 1000 acres+ and a lot of leased land that i also got permission over. All this was because old Ted had said i was a good boy who shot a few foxes for him.And Ted's wife gives me a dozen eggs every other week when i pop in for a walk around,they also insist i have a cup of decent tea when i have finished shooting. It is one of my favourite permissions, Ted does like a good single malt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted October 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 (edited) Never rule out a couple of acres,i have one permission that is just 6 fields, but the adjoining farm owner saw me shooting on it and spoke to "old Ted" a farmer in his 80's who uses twine to hold his trousers up,Ted told me on a visit to go and have a chat with the farm next door as he had a problem with rabbits and fox, so i did,a massive chicken farm with a 1000 acres+ and a lot of leased land that i also got permission over. All this was because old Ted had said i was a good boy who shot a few foxes for him.And Ted's wife gives me a dozen eggs every other week when i pop in for a walk around,they also insist i have a cup of decent tea when i have finished shooting. It is one of my favourite permissions, Ted does like a good single malt Ahhh...he only had an acre and a half inc the plot his house was on! Think the farm sold him the house but kept everything else! Edited October 12, 2013 by BRNDL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Never rule out a couple of acres,i have one permission that is just 6 fields, but the adjoining farm owner saw me shooting on it and spoke to "old Ted" a farmer in his 80's who uses twine to hold his trousers up,Ted told me on a visit to go and have a chat with the farm next door as he had a problem with rabbits and fox, so i did,a massive chicken farm with a 1000 acres+ and a lot of leased land that i also got permission over. All this was because old Ted had said i was a good boy who shot a few foxes for him.And Ted's wife gives me a dozen eggs every other week when i pop in for a walk around,they also insist i have a cup of decent tea when i have finished shooting. It is one of my favourite permissions, Ted does like a good single malt Ahhh...he only had an acre and a half inc the plot his house was on! Think the farm sold him the house but kept everything else! But he probably knows everyone in the area,farmers are a close knit community,worth another visit and a chat.He probably knows the land better than some of the younger farmers,the old uns are an asset,they don't miss a trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted October 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 But he probably knows everyone in the area,farmers are a close knit community,worth another visit and a chat.He probably knows the land better than some of the younger farmers,the old uns are an asset,they don't miss a trick. Yea this the guy that's invited me in already for a chat when I knocked on his door. He sent me to the farm next door, I gave both my letter so I hope something good comes from it. Fingers bloody crossed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 Good luck, keep at it, once you get the first one it gets easier after that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty88 Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 Just keep plugging away. I know full well how disheartening it is. I had so many nos before I got some permission. Good luck mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numpty Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 Keep going BRNDL and Pigeonman, perseverance does pay off, yesterday I sought permission on a large area of cut maize that I thought would be overrun with pigeon shooters and after going halfway round the county, secured permission! On my way round, I dropped into a farm that is huge in these parts and received a warm welcome. Dress smart, be very polite, be right to the point,mention any farmers you know and don't give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted October 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 Thanks lads, yes I am not going to give up. I reckon we have been to nearly 20 in total... I nearly went to see a farmer spraying off his crop but decided not to as didn't want to stop him from working. Also another drilling his field, but the field has **** loads of carrion on, I just couldn't bring myself to stop him by wandering on the field flagging hm down. Additionally I didn't know what farm he was from either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted October 13, 2013 Report Share Posted October 13, 2013 Just keep knocking mate..I use the farms that I've got as a starting point and work out in a circle using the farms I shoot on as a ice breaker as in " I shoot on x farm and he said to give you a try as you have x amount of pigeons/crows on your fields and as I shoot on x farm I was wondering if I could help you out as well".. Soon pays off as I've about 1000 acres of hill farms I go foxing on and 400 acres for Corvids/pigeon which is enough for me plus my grouse moor...and my duck pond..keep going mate but don't stray too far out or your on your own with no ice breaker.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted October 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Just keep knocking mate..I use the farms that I've got as a starting point and work out in a circle using the farms I shoot on as a ice breaker as in " I shoot on x farm and he said to give you a try as you have x amount of pigeons/crows on your fields and as I shoot on x farm I was wondering if I could help you out as well".. Soon pays off as I've about 1000 acres of hill farms I go foxing on and 400 acres for Corvids/pigeon which is enough for me plus my grouse moor...and my duck pond..keep going mate but don't stray too far out or your on your own with no ice breaker.. Yes I totally understand where you are coming from here...I just need my foot in the door with one permission then I will be a happy chappie! The bunnies on my permission are providing some sport and feeding the pond keeps me busy ( although there are no duck on it yet but I remain hopeful ) so I cant complain that I have nothing. I do take some people out from the facebook page Lancashirefieldsports to have a walk around and get out as I know the feeling of having nothing and nowhere to even get the gun out its slip! Thanks Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBLATCH Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 keep plugging away mate and i,m sure it will come ive got realy speaking more than i can cope with but plod on and get the job done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the pigeon man Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Just keep knocking mate..I use the farms that I've got as a starting point and work out in a circle using the farms I shoot on as a ice breaker as in " I shoot on x farm and he said to give you a try as you have x amount of pigeons/crows on your fields and as I shoot on x farm I was wondering if I could help you out as well".. Soon pays off as I've about 1000 acres of hill farms I go foxing on and 400 acres for Corvids/pigeon which is enough for me plus my grouse moor...and my duck pond..keep going mate but don't stray too far out or your on your own with no ice breaker.. That's what I was using out and about witch my 3 farms are around that area may have worked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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