Scully Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 It may well be inhumane,but I find it hard to criticise the actions of those doing a job of necessity when I will willingly shoot something for no other reason than my own entertainment.There are many who regard the shooting of a living creature for no other reason than entertainment as barbaric,and as much as we insist it is done as humanely and quickly as possible,we all know that isn't always the case. To inflict suffering for no other reason than we enjoy shooting could,and is, regarded as inhumane,by many,and when you think about it,totally unnecessary(we don't NEED to shoot ANYTHING,we choose to) and I can see the logic in this argument.To inflict suffering as part of a necessity to do a job isn't ideal,but it is a necessity.If that makes it inhumane then its inhumane,but pest control can sometimes be like that....boar,goat,rabbit or whatever.That rabbit was living a perfectly normal life for a rabbit,until I introduced that ferret into its burrow,and I could hear it squealing in pain.Inhumane?Unnecessary? I think to criticise one while I'm willing to do the other would make me a hypocrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted October 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Still inhumane though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) So is poisoning vermin but it happens every day every where. I bet you wouldnt think twice about putting poison down for a rat? Or do you stalk them with your deer rifle to ensure humane dispatch? A rat is no different from a pig, in fact the rats probably more intelligent. Edited October 16, 2013 by thepasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 So is poisoning vermin but it happens every day every where. I bet you wouldnt think twice about putting poison down for a rat? Or do you stalk them with your deer rifle to ensure humane dispatch? A rat is no different from a pig, in fact the rats probably more intelligent. Whilst I agree with you some pest control in the UK is certainly inhumane and of course animals will escape down a hole wounded etc. I don't think rat poison is the best example - wharfarin based poisons just thin the blood and prevent coagulation - death occurs because the rat cuts itself in the course of his daily activities and then bleeds to death - bleeding is not painful and the animal will pass out and die. In this video absolutely no effort is made to ensure that the animals are killed and not left wounded which is the issue I personally have with it. Conversely, as you have alluded to, I cannot think of a realistic effective option so perhaps it has to be accepted as not very nice but essential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) ^^^^ TRIPE ALERT ^^^^^ Rats die from internal bleeding (it damages the capillaries increasing permeability.... permeability in blood vessels is not a good thing) that builds over a few days possibly weeks, they suffer until they go into shock or become unconscious through anaemia. Its very much the reason that other methods are being sort as poisons available today (warfarin is a first generation rodenticide by the way) are regarded as inhumane. Edited October 16, 2013 by thepasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 ^^^^ TRIPE ALERT ^^^^^ Rats die from internal bleeding (it damages the capillaries increasing permeability.... permeability in blood vessels is not a good thing) that builds over a few days possibly weeks, they suffer until they go into shock or become unconscious through anaemia. Not from wharfarin they don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 It may well be inhumane,but I find it hard to criticise the actions of those doing a job of necessity when I will willingly shoot something for no other reason than my own entertainment.There are many who regard the shooting of a living creature for no other reason than entertainment as barbaric,and as much as we insist it is done as humanely and quickly as possible,we all know that isn't always the case. To inflict suffering for no other reason than we enjoy shooting could,and is, regarded as inhumane,by many,and when you think about it,totally unnecessary(we don't NEED to shoot ANYTHING,we choose to) and I can see the logic in this argument.To inflict suffering as part of a necessity to do a job isn't ideal,but it is a necessity.If that makes it inhumane then its inhumane,but pest control can sometimes be like that....boar,goat,rabbit or whatever.That rabbit was living a perfectly normal life for a rabbit,until I introduced that ferret into its burrow,and I could hear it squealing in pain.Inhumane?Unnecessary? I think to criticise one while I'm willing to do the other would make me a hypocrate. Spot on fella. Its just that some folks hold some animals in higher regard than others which is a tad hypocritical.These folk that always batter on about never leaving anything to die and making sure they always follow up to make sure its dead obviously don't shoot at creatures with a shotgun,as the amount of pricked birds,rabbits etc that get away is huge but then that's forgotten about.As said,posioning is a slow lingering death but because they cant be tolerated it becomes a different matter.If these pigs are doing huge damage and this method works then that's the main thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Not from wharfarin they don't according to the rest of the world they do (a quick read on the net is all thats needed to educate yourself). Edited October 16, 2013 by thepasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 I appreciate it is pest control but even pests deserve a lot more respect than shown here...multiple shots and leaving animals without ensuring they are dispatched is rather distasteful in my opinion. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Spot on fella. Its just that some folks hold some animals in higher regard than others which is a tad hypocritical.These folk that always batter on about never leaving anything to die and making sure they always follow up to make sure its dead obviously don't shoot at creatures with a shotgun,as the amount of pricked birds,rabbits etc that get away is huge but then that's forgotten about.As said,posioning is a slow lingering death but because they cant be tolerated it becomes a different matter.If these pigs are doing huge damage and this method works then that's the main thing. Have to agree, all those better than you , I never etc, are probably very good on a keyboard but dont live in the real world. It makes me laugh when someone jumps up and down about it on here, most with these sort of responses will only shoot the odd rabbit etc. If you had been to Australia/New Zealand etc and seen the damage and how its controlled they may have a little more understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE AD Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Should of used one of thesehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S06nIz4scvI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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