Over and Under for Fowling

[roughshooter]

How much did the hydrpgraphics job cost you? I may be interested in doing the same

[Jono 4]

From memory I think it was about £250 and around 6 weeks with them as they like to do a batch at once, cracking company to deal with though, very helpful, wouldn't hesitate to use them again.

[Grandalf]

You blokes are giving me a headache - I don't know which way to go now.

Lots of food for thought...

[UK fowler]

must say a 3" chamber in a double is not such a loss as you can reload 3" with a rto and get up to 1 3/8oz in the case. most 3" autos and pumps just dont want to Know just like 31/2" autos dont like the long 31/2" rto cases .the down side of the browning waterfowl is the price they are asking I picked mine up from york guns as a ex demo for £720 all the ones Iv seen on ###traider are well over a grand just depends how much you want to spend

Edited October 25, 2013 by UK fowler

[strangford wildfowler]

My mistrel o/u is 2 3/4" chambered and it gets along well with lylvale express standard steel carts, but I wouldn't mind one of them 3 1/2" o/u they look tasty. I'm putting one my Christmas list

[SuperGoose75]

I think SuperGoose75 on here has (or had) a Fabarm. I think I recall him mention it on the wildfowling forum.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong ......

 

No need for correction' i have the older model for near on ten yrs now and have no issues with it.

 

I see no one has mentioned the Zabala Century Classic..!! like its S/S Chum' the Canardier it has the option of firing both barrels simultaneously So it is possible to throw 4 and half oz of lead through it if you can take the recoil. I doubt many would opt to fire that much lead from a 8lb 12bore.

 

I dont fire to many big loads through my Gun' but when I have there was no real issue with recoil.It is not like you are going to be doing a round of skeet with it. It i like Cold hands' when the quarry is upon you' somehow cold hands are forgotten,Same thing for me when firing 64grms of lead.Unless somebody is very recoil sensitive or an elderly gentleman' then I i dont see the problem.

 

I dont normally fire at geese much over 50rds but When using the 3.5 loads i have a cartridge/choke combination that i know will kill geese dead out to 60'ish yrds.

 

So for price ranges' you are gonna be looking at the Zabala as the cheapest option' with the Lincoln/fabarm mid range and the Browning/Beretta at the top end.

As with everything you get what you pay for' Depends on what you want from the gun.Although each will have slightly different handling qualities' they all if held straight will kill birds.

i can still Shoot the Toxic stuff legally' But for yourself that will mostly be using non toxic' then it might be a good idea to check out the choking systems available first before you make your choice.

[tigger]

No need for correction' i have the older model for near on ten yrs now and have no issues with it.

 

I see no one has mentioned the Zabala Century Classic..!! like its S/S Chum' the Canardier it has the option of firing both barrels simultaneously So it is possible to throw 4 and half oz of lead through it if you can take the recoil. I doubt many would opt to fire that much lead from a 8lb 12bore.

 

I dont fire to many big loads through my Gun' but when I have there was no real issue with recoil.It is not like you are going to be doing a round of skeet with it. It i like Cold hands' when the quarry is upon you' somehow cold hands are forgotten,Same thing for me when firing 64grms of lead.Unless somebody is very recoil sensitive or an elderly gentleman' then I i dont see the problem.

 

I dont normally fire at geese much over 50rds but When using the 3.5 loads i have a cartridge/choke combination that i know will kill geese dead out to 60'ish yrds.

 

So for price ranges' you are gonna be looking at the Zabala as the cheapest option' with the Lincoln/fabarm mid range and the Browning/Beretta at the top end.

As with everything you get what you pay for' Depends on what you want from the gun.Although each will have slightly different handling qualities' they all if held straight will kill birds.

i can still Shoot the Toxic stuff legally' But for yourself that will mostly be using non toxic' then it might be a good idea to check out the choking systems available first before you make your choice.

 

Ahh yes the SXS Canardier what a gun, I once made the mistake of pulling the second trigger first 2x 1450fps 3 1/2 loads down the barrel at once, one bruised shoulder and cheek a cut finger and loose filling, I didn't keep it for very long funnily enough, very difficult to use with gloves on and if I'm honest it scared the hell out of me, I then sold it to my mate and warned him not to do it he did by accident on the side of the creek and put him straight in the middle of it in in freezing water, I think it's been sold a couple of times since which is no suprise I must say.

[kent]

Ahh yes the SXS Canardier what a gun, I once made the mistake of pulling the second trigger first 2x 1450fps 3 1/2 loads down the barrel at once, one bruised shoulder and cheek a cut finger and loose filling, I didn't keep it for very long funnily enough, very difficult to use with gloves on and if I'm honest it scared the hell out of me, I then sold it to my mate and warned him not to do it he did by accident on the side of the creek and put him straight in the middle of it in in freezing water, I think it's been sold a couple of times since which is no suprise I must say.

 

Perhaps you should have said "do it once in practice, it will focus the mind not to try it again"

[tigger]

Perhaps you should have said "do it once in practice, it will focus the mind not to try it again"

Lol should have, where your expecting such recoil you can brace yourself when your not expecting it well it hurts like hell hahaha

[grahamch]

Last winter I switched to an over and under for my fowling from an SBE2, because when I shoot fowl and game every time I switched from the auto to o/u my cartridge to kills would drop for a couple of flights, so I bought a 3" beretta OU had the stock matched to my game gun, had an Isis recoil reducer then the gun dipped by HydroGraphics, my cartridge to kills went up and I never suffered the performance drop when I switched to my game gun, if I go for geese I use homeloaded 42gm hevishot 2's if there more than 35 yards if not it's steel 1's, for duck I use steel 3's and never feel under gunned. I've not missed the 3rd shot as I generally only used it as a cripple stopper. The HydroGraphics dip has lasted well, following advice I had the rubber type coating added and it was £20 well spent, with the Isis reducer I don't notice increased recoil image.jpg

 

How much did it cost to get the stock swapped, and where did the replacement come from?

[wildfowler.250]

Can't ever recall an O/U user walking off a marsh complaining that he had missed out on his only chance because he had a jam !!

 

Used one for most of my wildfowling until a few years ago when I bought an auto with the idea of taking out a light weight gun along with my heavy double eight.

Had the cartridges get stuck under the ejectors once or twice..massive pain in the hoop!

[wildfowler.250]

Okay read through this. And thought about it..

 

1) o/u with a wooden stock isn't ideal.

2) semi auto's reduce recoil which is handy for big wildfowling loads

3) third shot often either saves the day or is very useful as a stopper when you shoot a R&L

 

 

Did think about going back to the O/U's but a good 3 shot is hard to beat. I sometimes put 2 duck shells in and have the 3rd as a goose incase I get suprised by a skien or want to change my shells around quicker.