DSPUK Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Done that at 1mph - Was off to races one Sunday - nipped out to fuel up - came back up lane -(one car width) - stopped then did slow right turn to face other way outside my gates - jap bikes have rear brake on right (learnt on brit bikes) so almost at stop and touched front brake - it pulled handlebars to right and I was left hopping sideways on right foot as bike slowly fell on it's side - nice little dent in tank from throttle clamp. Suzuki GT550 triple and was top heavy and I have short legs. dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyh Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Don't try reverse steering to corner just yet!!!!!!! Thats the only way a bike will turn ! Physics ! You just dont know your doing it until its explained on a Track Day or in one of the Funny's. Same on a Pushbike as on a R1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Thats the only way a bike will turn ! Physics ! You just dont know your doing it until its explained on a Track Day or in one of the Funny's. Same on a Pushbike as on a R1. All depending on how fast you are riding...I would like to see a reverse turn whist completing a turn in the road! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikky Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 there are 2 types of motorbike riders...those who have had a crash and those who are about to....according to my dad...unfortunately for me he was right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyh Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 All depending on how fast you are riding...I would like to see a reverse turn whist completing a turn in the road! Then try turning slowly with fixed bars ! i.e. nip your steering dasmper up tight - Watch what happens ? It will hurt. Just like watching a childs first go on a pushbike-lots of wobbles (turning away and then turning in to counter balance). This used to be my living,I dont have to guess ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincs1963 Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 I get the use of rear brake for control during low speed maneuvers, u turns and the like, but not when coming to a stop. That is unless you are on gravel, a greasy surface or similar where there might be a danger of the front washing out. Back brake only to stop (on a good surface) isn't taught at advanced level in my experience, I'm a RoSPA gold advanced rider, I suspect my Police Class One qualified examiner would have failed me if I just used the rear to stop. If they teach this at CBT that might explain why I see so many inexperienced riders who are scared to use their front brake full stop. A real recipe for disaster in their later riding careers IMHO. I know what you mean about drum brakes though. As well a modern Triumph 1050 triple, I have an old BSA 650 twin, with drums at both ends. It scares the life out of me if I haven't ridden it for a while and recalibrated my brain to the rubbish stopping power! The use of back brake only is fairly new to me as well. Had full ticket since 1981 and it's always been front brake. The time you notice the benefit most is when carrying a pillion, you don't get the helmet bashing you can suffer as you come to a stop. just a smoother, more controlled way to come to the final halt. I am doing a police 'bikesafe' course in January and my IAM observed rides next spring. I am really looking forward to it as I don't think we ever stop learning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodo123 Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Do u mean counterstearing? If so I find that easy. i was going round some national speed limit twistys the other lesson, maybe I just had a bad day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobbyathome Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 i have riden bikes since 1974 and as i will agree with blunderbuss again just listen to your instructor ride as much as you can and get used to the front brake the back is only for stablising the bike or emergencys you will always make mistakes and only experience will stop that welcome to the wonderfull world of motorcycling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) stick with it as some one said to me not to long ago, "have you come off recently" no i replied "well your just not trying hard enough" not that long ago i was falling off at traffic lights i now fall off at the track http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k609/chris-jh/cadwelljune162.jpg Edited October 18, 2013 by chrisjh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodo123 Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 I bet that gives u a bit of a twitchy bum hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx10mike Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 maybe the rear brake was not releasing properly so when you took off as normal it just had no guts and caught you out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) I bet that gives u a bit of a twitchy bum hole. not to much on track but defo gets bum twitchy round the Ring http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k609/chris-jh/C227F1B0-5D29-4FC6-9E82-E2E68A80C339-384-0000007CDA0320B5.jpg Edited October 18, 2013 by chrisjh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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