Eric Begbie Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 Over on the Wildfowling Forum today there was a comment from a contributor that he had achieved a very poor cartridge/kill ratio on pigeons - something he put down to the current sub-zero temperatures making the birds shot-proof. I can't see how air temperature affects the ability of shot to penetrate a bird's plumage but I would be interested to know if any other pigeon shooters have experiences of a similar kind. :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 The inches of Ice. Perhapse the cartrages we slightly wet or damp, causing not all the powder to burn slowing the shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 thats some excuse for poor shooting I'll have to try that one All the best John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 I can only assume the chap was attempting to be funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 Yes this happens to me everytime I miss but that ain't very often so may not be of much interest to yourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONO Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 I was goign to say - its a pigeon - not "Batfink"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadwall52 Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 Cold weather will lower the burn rate of powder resulting a loss of velocity and range resulting in missed or wounded birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 gadwall52, whilst I cannot argue the ballistics, I have never experienced more missed, or wounded birds in sub zero temperatures. Rather the opposite, the poor condition of the birds in such weather, usually weakens their resistance to "carrying" shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammergun Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 I've heard of Black Powder burning slower in extreme cold, but Nitro powder should not be affected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 Rather the opposite, the poor condition of the birds in such weather, usually weakens their resistance to "carrying" shot. had a "strange" hit today? shot at a pigeon thought got it!! bird flew off in a jinking manner attempted to get into a large tree about 200yards away as I watched it, it fell through the branches to the ground, so I walked over to put it out of its misery! on fiding it, it was stone cold dead and had been fully hit in the head? so much so you could feel the flattening of the struck side of its skull, and clearly see the holes, how the hell it flew so far I will never know cheers kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F150 Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 Maybe the shooter is a little behind the birds. Remove added weight on the gun by clearing settled snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamebag Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 woodies can be hard little beggars at the best of times :< i have had 1 where i hit him hard in the neck & head & he flew befor dying about 100 yards another 1 i hit i took his head clean off :*) how the hell that happend i will never know but it sure as hell made a mess of my game bag . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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