bunnybasher100 Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 don't know if its just me being stupid but ive got the beretta al391 its only a year old, and cartride picky. its been back to the dealers to be checked and returned with nothing wrong with it, but depending on the cartridges it dosent sent the carrier back all the way resulting in the cart being jamed and not reloading the second, happens with rio, eley, and some gamebores, dosent matter if the load or wad changes still does the same. could any one help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 It was the same with me at one point, I was using hull inter-comps,went through at least 2 boxes and then all of a sudden it started to jam on them or not cycle them at all. Now I use Gamebore clear pigeon 30g 6's or I use Lyalvale Express Supreme Game 30g 6's. Both these loads slam that carrier back into my shoulder pretty well!!!, most semi-autos dont cycle well with anything bellow 28g anyway, what cartridge weight are you using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08shooter Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 check barrel ports are clean could be something simple my franchi and super x2 both cycle 24 shells,neither has missed a beat yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Sounds like it needs a complete strip down, polish and lubrication. I took a mates 391 which was rusted fast, it took a while but with the beretta manual off the net and some patients it now looks and fires a dream. If it won't cycle 30 or 32g loads, there is something wrong with it no matter what anyone tells you. Places to look are the exhaust port (clean, free from coking up as well as the forestock and its venting hole) as well as look for excessive friction in the action which might be caused by pitting. GL mate, lovely guns, I am sure given to the right person yours will be too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnybasher100 Posted January 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 it cycles 50g 3inch magnums fine, all the exaust ports are clean and everyting is well lubed like i said before just seemed to be certain carts it dosen't like for instance it hates country club carts loaded by eley which are 30grm loads but if fine with 30grm loaded gamebore clear pigeon fibe wad. just wondering if its the powder that the carts are loaded with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 everyting is well lubed with what please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnybasher100 Posted January 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 im useing berrta oil supplied by gmk thanks to my mates mum which supplies everything @ trade less discount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 just remember.less is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin.y Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 it cycles 50g 3inch magnums fine, all the exaust ports are clean and everyting is well lubed like i said before just seemed to be certain carts it dosen't like for instance it hates country club carts loaded by eley which are 30grm loads but if fine with 30grm loaded gamebore clear pigeon fibe wad. just wondering if its the powder that the carts are loaded with. bunny i am using a 391 as well no probs atall with any cartridge i have put through it ,mine is not spanking clean either ,i have dropped to 28gram loads with no probs . these do have a variable exhaust port on them wondering if that is set right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippy18 Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Hi all Been out with my 391 this morn and thought i would give it a try with a few types of carts. I tried 5 different makes of carts ranging between 32g to 28g and found that mine cycled with them all. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldseadog Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 I had problems with black gold 28g cartridges but the 24g and other 28's seemed to cycle fine. I think that if you allow the gun to recoil ie don't have a good grip or let your shoulder get "pushed back" as the gun fires the action doesn't have the momentum to completely cycle the round. I used to have pistols that did the same if allowed your arms to absorb some of the energy. Were the jams after a prolonged shoot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancs Lad Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 was out with mine on the clay ground doing 28gs rottweils no problems................. Will let you know about eleys 32s after the weekend................here bunny bunny bunny.................... not tried heavy loads yet........but did pick up a box of 50g bbs.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacker Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 don't know if its just me being stupid but ive got the beretta al391 its only a year old, and cartride picky. its been back to the dealers to be checked and returned with nothing wrong with it, but depending on the cartridges it dosent sent the carrier back all the way resulting in the cart being jamed and not reloading the second, happens with rio, eley, and some gamebores, dosent matter if the load or wad changes still does the same. could any one help. Chop it in for a Bennelli - No need to worry about keeping the ports etc clean, as they don't have any !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 I've got a 391 and shortly after I bought it (new) it started to misfeed. This was traced to the long recoil spring in the butt (which the carrier pushes back) being bone dry of any lubricant. Strip the gun and depress this spring with a rimmy cleaning rod or similar. Then put a small amount of gun oil on this spring or on the walls of the tube in which the spring operates.. Worked for mine - it now fires anything from 28g upwards with no problems. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 my old man has a 391 i use occasionally, its been cleaned about 2x in 2.5 yrs, i can count the number of malfunctions on one hand. it will feed most cartridges, but low recoil carts wont work (chevrons) its been faultless, never been maintained other than a quick lick of beretta oil and clean barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnybasher100 Posted January 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 well at least its not me being a hypochondriac, i know thats a big word for some of you. thanks for your help but i think i may have solved the problem bying a new gun for clay shooting, no blaming the gun anymore it could be operator error?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 you could always try boring the ports out very slightly. a mate of mine done it to good effect but id check with a gun smith how much you should drill them out. also make sure everything is lubed up well. If you bore out the ports you get lower pressure so it may not work correctly also it would have to be lapped out or you could have small bits of swarf in the berrel edge and remember that you cant put metal back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnybasher100 Posted January 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 you could always try boring the ports out very slightly. a mate of mine done it to good effect but id check with a gun smith how much you should drill them out. also make sure everything is lubed up well. ya i know what your getting at the sa80 and LSW have an option on the gas parts, for when the wepon has be use for a long time with no cleaning. So when the wepon miss loads sevral times, you turn the gas parts to get a clean hole and on closer inspection the hole is slightly larger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMMER BURT Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 i have an al391 urika wicth is 4 years old i clean it after 250-500 shots and it has never jammed i also fire it off the hip with no problem,with 24-36 gm carts of all makes and shot size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country_est Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Got a xtrema 3.5" variant and use it for clays with 28g, have used 24g with it as well as 46g steel and have only had one prob with jamming on loading afrt having it for naerly 2 years. Trev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 lovley pics mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death from below Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Never had a single problem with my 391.....I think it is superb.....I have saw a semi not eject the spent cartridge properly when the shooter has not had a firm grip on the shotty(a rather snassy camo webley). Moved away from him rather sharpish (not comfortable next to someone who can't even hold a gun properly). maybe you should stop keeping your after shoot beer money lodged in the end of the barrel. DFB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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