old rooster Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 This is why I shop at Morrissons. When the religion was invented and everyone else was slaughtering with a club then halal would have been the best way but like most things with religion times have changed but they have failed to keep up. Sorry to disappoint you but morrisons are one of the biggest culprits mate! It has all been done in a very underhanded hush hush way which shows you how those who are doing it think it will be viewed if the general public knew. I have to regrettably agree with the old leek cruncher on this; buy from your local butcher but even then insist on him confirming that the meat hasn't been slaughtered in the barbaric halal way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcloud Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) What is this zekat mark ? Why did I not know about this ? If true , this is outrageous . Any product carrying these marks (there are many others also) pay the Zekat to those authorities, paying for their continued certification under islamic law. The cost of that will obviously be passed on to joe public, the vast majority know nothing about it but even if they see the stamps they buy the product because they don't think it affects them. These funds directly finance the building of mosques as well as help raise funds for many muslim projects. Not all of these projects or recipients are publicised in any way which make you wonder what they're hiding. You don't know about this because it isn't something that is generally publicised in our society, probably because Patriotic Englishmen might make a fuss, we wouldn't want that in our nice multicultural society now would we? I mean the very though that an Englishman having any freedom of speech and freedom of choice is against everything the governments of the last 40 years have worked so hard for. Research it for yourself and you'll find the truth, It isn't hard to find. I'm not going to tell you categorically this is true or thats a lie, people need to research and make up their own minds. I've found a great many hidden truths over the last few years that are quite shocking, completely undermines the very values that our country and society was built upon, I could just be paranoid I guess. Edited February 2, 2014 by redcloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 There are lists of Halal approved companies on the HFA website. Try not to choke on your cornflakes when reading it.....or your Mars bar http://halalfoodauthority.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glb8686 Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Local butcher it is then. Poor do when properly slaughtered meat is this hard to find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 The interesting question is...............why would the people who are at this keep it quiet knowing full well that it will come out eventually and at that point cause quite a stir? They aren't stupid, they know how to cause agitation and unrest which is all to the good of their overall game plan. Apathy will see to it that nothing gets done until it is all too late again. We generally have a fairly comfortable life compared to some of these people, they are trying to deal with that on a global basis at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcloud Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 What I don't understand is why do the powers that be find it acceptable and even encourage the change to halal meat/produce. It seems to be to please a minority religion, but what about other minority religions that cannot accept halal food. Sikh's for example cannot take food dedicated to any god/deity, Jews cannot accept halal slaughtered meat (ok it's the same precess but a different dedication). Then theres people that find the method of slaughter offensive so don't want any part of it. And finally theres people like me who don't want any part of any religion and won't fund, wherever possible, any of them. Now taking all that into account it is an absolute must that all products produced in accordance with any religion should be labeled as such, as I said in an earlier post. The move with school and work canteens becoming halal only is quite frankly disgraceful, I don't object to giving people a halal choice, or a kosha choice just like they give a vegetarian choice, the point is giving people a choice, and the information to make that choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 What I don't understand is why do the powers that be find it acceptable and even encourage the change to halal meat/produce. It seems to be to please a minority religion, but what about other minority religions that cannot accept halal food. Sikh's for example cannot take food dedicated to any god/deity, Jews cannot accept halal slaughtered meat (ok it's the same precess but a different dedication). Then theres people that find the method of slaughter offensive so don't want any part of it. And finally theres people like me who don't want any part of any religion and won't fund, wherever possible, any of them. Now taking all that into account it is an absolute must that all products produced in accordance with any religion should be labeled as such, as I said in an earlier post. The move with school and work canteens becoming halal only is quite frankly disgraceful, I don't object to giving people a halal choice, or a kosha choice just like they give a vegetarian choice, the point is giving people a choice, and the information to make that choice. Agree with most of that but still don't believe the barbaric and unnecessarily cruel practice of halal slaughter should be allowed in this country. There is no precedent for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Non-penetrating captive bolt guns are produced and marketed for religious slaughter. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/57603414/CASH-Magnum-Knocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 Whilst I don't agree with halal slaughter I find it amusing that this debate is turning into a conspiracy theory for the end of the world! The reason this is happening in our supermarkets and fast food places comes down to one simple word, "money". White non-Muslim CEOs, CFOs and senior management sat in boardrooms looking at profit and seeing that if they buy meat from non-halal abattoirs they cut off millions of customers in the UK alone. If they instead buy from halal abattoirs it doesn't break any laws, doesn't make much difference to the non-Muslim customer base but increases the size of their markets hugely. There is no secret agenda other than capitalist ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 The reason this is happening in our supermarkets and fast food places comes down to one simple word, "money". There is no secret agenda other than capitalist ambition. Let's end a topic on a sensible note for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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