Two questions

[double10]

hi all,

 

not sure what the laws are regarding the following:

 

1. if I wanted to take my shotgun to a holiday house or friend's house for the weekend as there is shooting nearby but they don't have a cabinet, is it ok to have the gun broken up and each piece in a different locked cupboard?

 

2. Due to travel issues, is it legal to take a shotgun on a train provided it is broken up and stored in such a way that it isn't visible and cannot be fired? (like in a beretta hard case)

 

cheers

[saddler]

Yes

&

Yes

 

Trigger locks & lockable cases are a good idea...as are security cables that allow some parts to be attached to the fabric of the car/house

[bostonmick]

it is your responsibility to ensure safe secure storage of your gun.quite how this would be defined in the event of an accident or if the gun was stolen is an open question.as for taking your gun on a train this is a tricky one as with todays hysteria around guns you would only need one person to recognise that you are carrying a firearm and make a complaint and I think you may be asked to leave the train.its not right but it is the world we live in.you could always ask the train company what their policy is.they may insist you do not carry any cartridges with you.

[welshwarrior]

Security is down to you trigger locks etc or barrels in the car action in lock cupboard etc all sound reasonable to me.

 

Carry it discretely on a train is fine, try to avoid an obvious gun case especially one with helpful stickers like "Hatsan Gun Owners club, we're good for a day" etc.

[tx4cabbie]

Bloke I know bought a case from a music Shop and doctored it to hold his shottie, he doesn't drive and thought a Beretta case was a bit obvious on trains etc, but a flat black case with Fender and ziljian etc stickers on Makes him look like a musician.

Edited April 6, 2014 by tx4cabbie

[double10]

As I have to be with my dad for that regardless we can just split it between a couple back packs or sports bags

thanks for the info & advice ^^

[Old farrier]

Hi

Agree with others but you may have a issue with cartridge as they can be classed as hazzardous goods and may have to go in guards van on train

Sorry to be a kill joy but worth checking

All the best

Of

[CharlieT]

The issue of the safe storage of firearms whilst away from home is deal twith in the Firearms Security Handbook 2005..............

 

1.1 It is a condition of the issue of a firearm certificate that the firearms and shotguns to which

the certificate relates must be stored securely at all times (except in certain circumstances) so as

to prevent, so far as is reasonably practicable, access to the guns by unauthorised persons

7.8 Where firearms and ammunition are being carried on a journey which involves their being

kept away from their usual secure storage, the certificate holder should make arrangements to

ensure that they are, so far as is possible, secure. Considerations when firearms are being taken

to venues involving overnight or longer accommodation include:

a) obtaining accommodation that already provides secure facilities;

b) separating and retaining possession of integral parts of the firearm, eg the fore-end of a

shotgun, bolt of a rifle etc;

c) utilising portable security devices, ie security cords etc.

As far as traveling by rail is concerned, each rail operator will have different rules as to what it allows to be carried. You will need to look at their terms and conditions to find out.