camojohn Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 I have found a good spot to put my hide, in a flight line with the wind at my back. The only thing I am concerned about is how close I am the property opposite me. I am 245 yards from a house and 155 yards from the boundary hedge. Is this a problem? I’m using 12g 29gram number 6. To calculate the distance, find your location, zoom in and switch to satellite mode, then click points on map http://www.daftlogic.com/projects-google-maps-distance-calculator.htm To calculate the area, find your location then zoom in then click on the map. http://www.daftlogic.com/projects-google-maps-area-calculator-tool.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Yes your too close , you are committing an offence if the pellets leave the boundary of the land on which you have permission to shoot. Your pellets are almost certainly going to travel more than 155 yards , can you not set up in the field and shoot in a better direction ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 As Fenboy says above you are too close. You should allow up to 300 metres for the fall of shot. Another consideration would be that the hide should be placed so that you can put your decoy pattern near to where the birds want to be, not where you can set up a hide! Spend time watching for flightlines and where they want to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 If you're shooting fairly flat (ie fairly parallel to the ground) your shot will never travel the 245 yards to the house. Another option to reduce shot fallout distance, is to use a smaller shot size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berettacocker Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Could you use another hedge and take them as crossers? Better sport IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Could you use another hedge and take them as crossers? Better sport IMO Who's to say he wouldn't be doing that already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camojohn Posted May 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Thank you all for your replies. I could set up from the end of the field which would give me 520 yards the only thing is that I am then 100 yards from the flight line going across. If I was to put my hide in the middle of the field would that put the pigeons off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 No it will not put them off , I have shot plenty from the middle of a field . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Thank you all for your replies. I could set up from the end of the field which would give me 520 yards the only thing is that I am then 100 yards from the flight line going across. If I was to put my hide in the middle of the field would that put the pigeons off? Glad you have found a better solution, 100 yards is only a few wing beats for a pigeon...better to shoot like that, rather than get yourself in a pickle. What ever you do you will learn something... Are the birds actually feeding on the field? If so what is the crop? TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Thank you all for your replies. I could set up from the end of the field which would give me 520 yards the only thing is that I am then 100 yards from the flight line going across. If I was to put my hide in the middle of the field would that put the pigeons off? It shouldn't bother them if you make the hide quite solid so that you don't show a silhouette! Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camojohn Posted May 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Glad you have found a better solution, 100 yards is only a few wing beats for a pigeon...better to shoot like that, rather than get yourself in a pickle. What ever you do you will learn something... Are the birds actually feeding on the field? If so what is the crop? TEH Yes the pigeons are feeding in the field and enjoying the peas. They have not been around in any number for over a mouth, so I don’t want to miss this chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berettacocker Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Who's to say he wouldn't be doing that already?because the wind is in his back!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 because the wind is in his back!!! I'm sure I could set up to shoot crossers if the wind is on my back. Doesn't take much to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berettacocker Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Pigeons land head into wind, so if wind in your back they'll land facing you,only way you'd get crossers in this case is if they were coming from behind and you were taking them as they came over the hedge either side of the hide! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longchalk Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 As has been said already, if in doubt always allow a 300 yard fall out zone. This is the distance recommend by the CPSA for clay grounds, and would be a lot easier to defend if challenged, than "I thought 245 seemed enough". It's not always the ballistic facts we have to deal with as much as other people's perceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 as you have a concern about the house,which is never fun in a hide...I personally would go and see the house,politely explain what & why and for whom you are shooting the pigeons to keep them off the peas and say you are v conscious about their house and shall be setting up so you will not pepper their house.If they are anti they wil at least know you are sensible,if they know are friendly to the landowner they may well say they have no problem at all etc why not sset up by our hedge.... The last thing I ever want to think about when sat in a hide is am I disturbing those folk or are the police about to arrive! 100 yards off a flightline is no problem with decoying/nor is putting a decent hide in the middle of a field. atb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 Pigeons land head into wind, so if wind in your back they'll land facing you,only way you'd get crossers in this case is if they were coming from behind and you were taking them as they came over the hedge either side of the hide! Have you thought that maybe the decoys could be set off to one side of the hide to provide crossing shots? I've shot enough pigeons to know how to get them to commit in a certain area or angle from the hide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berettacocker Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 So have I, them birds will be quartering on comers or from behind, quartering going away. They land head to wind! Wind from right or left, coys to one side lovely crossers. We are talking wind in your back.i was trying to help the man not confuse him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camojohn Posted May 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Have you thought that maybe the decoys could be set off to one side of the hide to provide crossing shots? I've shot enough pigeons to know how to get them to commit in a certain area or angle from the hide. Motty thank you for your suggestion. The field is an L shape, so I am going to offset my hide by 30 yard and shoot into one corner. This will give me a range of 360 yards with a swing of about 45digrees. If I find that I need more swing, then I can always move the hide out from the hedge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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