the enigma Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Morning lads I've seen a few package deals for Howa 1500 and Savage M-25 centrefire rifles. Both seem to be in around the same money, but the Savage comes with a laminate stock, compared to the Hogue stock on the Howa, which it seems a lot people don't rate. Just wondering if anyone has any experience of the Savage? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 The world makes it mind up for various reasons, there are those that have an orgasm at the mere thought of the Hogue/Howa, personally I hate the Hogue, but I would take a cheap Howa any day over the Savage equivalent! Personal view, there will be many others! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennym Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Howa's are getting a good reputation as a platform for custom gunmakers, I'm currently researching howa's & the only negative I see so far is the plastic mag conversion, the 5 isn't to bad (apart from being plastic) but the ten shot because of the extra leverage does seem to move about a bit. all else says they are a well put together gun built on a good design with state of the art production techniques. HTH Kennym Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 I've been looking at the 1500 in .223 and my concern is the forend pressing on the barrel - I did read the later models were better but its still a concern as I love my bipod and would hate to have to lose it and cart a bag around instead. Anyone able to confirm or deny the later model being less wobbly front end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennym Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 I've been looking at the 1500 in .223 and my concern is the forend pressing on the barrel - I did read the later models were better but its still a concern as I love my bipod and would hate to have to lose it and cart a bag around instead. Anyone able to confirm or deny the later model being less wobbly front end? get the laminate option its not much more money and neatly side steps this issue, i think they do a package called the LRT, I'm gonna hold out for the GRS stock option which is available early June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpy69 Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Anyone able to confirm or deny the later model being less wobbly front end? Cant compare mine bought this time last year to the older one but I have never had any issues with the forend pressing the barrel, yes the forend is a but 'soft' but the only way to make it touch is to pull the rifle back quite hard when out on the bipod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the enigma Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Thanks everyone. Statistically, having tested several of each, Savage ARE more accurate but Howa do look a little nicer I must admit. A lot of a gun's inherent accuracy is to do with the ease with which the shooter can access it and **** bendy stocks are the numer one source of question marks, closely followed by poor trigger control which when applied to a light unit is less noticeable than a heavy one. Savage AccuTrigger........ gimmick or is it a plus in your view? And any feeding issues on any of Savages what you used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the enigma Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 I dont mind the accutrigger at all, it is a lot better than the latest howa two stage unit. Realistically its no different to shooting a two stage unit. Most of the savages i have shot were single shot but the axis mag feed was fine. I didnt love the model 25 in 17 hornet but most of that was attributable to the round's intrinsic characteristics themselves. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennym Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Statistically, having tested several of each, Savage ARE more accurate but Howa do look a little nicer I must admit. A lot of a gun's inherent accuracy is to do with the ease with which the shooter can access it and **** bendy stocks are the numer one source of question marks, closely followed by poor trigger control which when applied to a light unit is less noticeable than a heavy one. fister have you any experience of the Howa with the laminated stock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 I have the later model Howa its a lot more accurate than the early model i had would i buy another YES (over a savage that is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Sorry if I'm going off track here but have you thought about a Tikka T3 rifle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmy1100 Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) ive a howa never had problem with the slight flex in forend this is good to see difference between few 223s and prices and what shoots best ect Edited May 30, 2014 by remmy1100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the enigma Posted May 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Sorry if I'm going off track here but have you thought about a Tikka T3 rifle? Unfortunately my budget won't search that far. ive a howa never had problem with the slight flex in forend this is good to see difference between few 223s and prices and what shoots best ect Thanks for that. The Howa looks like the best of those three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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