paul041075 Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Just been pressure washing some of the ibc's off the shoot, most had shed loads of algae and scum in them so all now clean as we can get them. Does anyone treat the water with anything or just put fresh water in? chlorine tablets got suggested but not so sure myself!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainBeaky Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Try using chlorine dioxide solution - 0.5ppm is usually ample to keep it clean, and you can't taste it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinF Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 We use black IBC's, as the algae can't grow without light, and we clean everything out with Virkon S before use. We also use chlorine tablets to treat the water, which were supplied by JustJon on here. Very easy to use, one tablet per 1,000 ltrs of water. I believe that you can also use Virkon S in the drinking water to do a similar job, but I haven't used it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1steele Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Cant beat Virkon S for cleaning but never used it in the water itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul041075 Posted June 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Plan to cover the ibc's now as they are clear So I'm guessing that a chlorine block is fully safe for the birds? What if you need to medicate the water does it make a difference with chlorine in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJon Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 PM me - I work for a company that manufactures all the cleaning chemicals. Send me your number and I'll give you a call with the answers - don't mind if you then buy ours or someone else's just being useful. To dispel a couple of myths - Virkon S is good but has some downsides, mainly ability to work where dust/organic material are. The guys that clean regularly (chicken farms) moved on from Virkon S10 years ago for good reason - it still has a place but not for water or disinfecting buildings/equipment. Chlorine dioxide is good under pressure. Everytime the system let's air in the chlorine will disappear cause it's a gas. Your IBC/system isn't air tight else the sides would pull in and it'd explode? Drinkers aren't a pressured system, mains water is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Cant beat Virkon S for cleaning but never used it in the water itself. You can, it's used in pig drinkers at 0.5% I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJon Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 You can, it's used in pig drinkers at 0.5% I think. Too strong. It is legal in water but not that strong with birds in! You'd disinfect the guts and make them scour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1steele Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 You can, it's used in pig drinkers at 0.5% I think. I knew it could be used in water but just stating I hadn't used it in the water, just for cleaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainBeaky Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 PM me - I work for a company that manufactures all the cleaning chemicals. Send me your number and I'll give you a call with the answers - don't mind if you then buy ours or someone else's just being useful. To dispel a couple of myths - Virkon S is good but has some downsides, mainly ability to work where dust/organic material are. The guys that clean regularly (chicken farms) moved on from Virkon S10 years ago for good reason - it still has a place but not for water or disinfecting buildings/equipment. Chlorine dioxide is good under pressure. Everytime the system let's air in the chlorine will disappear cause it's a gas. Your IBC/system isn't air tight else the sides would pull in and it'd explode? Drinkers aren't a pressured system, mains water is. Actually, chlorine does gas off, because it is only sparingly soluble, and in solution tends to be present as the sodium hypochlorite/hypochlorous acid equilibrium. Chlorine dioxide is very soluble, but reacts very, very fast, so doesn't tend to stick around long, even in a pressurised system. It is, however, the dog's wotsits at getting stuff clean, as it has no side reactions other than oxidation, and rips biofilms to bits where chlorine would do nothing.Just don't use it in a confined space... (Yes, I do water treatment for a living ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Too strong. It is legal in water but not that strong with birds in! You'd disinfect the guts and make them scour. I was talking about pigs, just to state it is used in drinking water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 I use virkon s in the water no problems, follow the recommended dosage rates, keeps everything clean and the birds droppings look perfect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 http://www2.dupont.com/Virkon_S/en_GB/applications/water_system_disinfection.html 1:1000 rate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Never knew virkon s could be used like that! So Paul do you use the 1kg rate and the birds are happy to drink it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Once a week I mix a small bottle full of water with 100 grams so it has chance to soak (otherwise there are floaty bits) then add this to the estimated 110 ltr in our header tanks, this must be done fresh (pink) if you leave the small bottle to long it'll go clear and smells strong. Birds drink it no worries. Also for the first few weeks On the same day as I do virkon in the water I also scrub down, virkon and squeegee all the slabs under the pen feeders, leaving them clean and damp with virkon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Brilliant cheers mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Should add to that A full header tank would last about 3 days so it's only at that strength for a short time, and is probably quite weak by the following week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 I know this is a old thread, but looking at putting some drinkers out, but in the past have suffered with the water going green, my drinkers are 25 litre non hazardous like chemical containers washed out, Had a look at the Virkon s web and it does not say in black and white it can be used at 1g/100ml for drinking purposes it pheasant water. Any help much appreciated . Regards K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 22 hours ago, Konnie said: I know this is a old thread, but looking at putting some drinkers out, but in the past have suffered with the water going green, my drinkers are 25 litre non hazardous like chemical containers washed out, Had a look at the Virkon s web and it does not say in black and white it can be used at 1g/100ml for drinking purposes it pheasant water. Any help much appreciated . Regards K This part of the website covers it I think Continous Disinfection 1:1000 Dose header tank as required or apply through water system dosing equipment. I know a few people that do it and I'm going to try it this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 Many thanks for reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 Ok I a think i'm over thinking this 1/1000 is this 1g per litre(1000ml) or 1g per 1000litre just checking as don't want to do any harm. Quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 1 kilogram to 1000 litre or 1 gram to 1 litre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnie Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 Thankyou . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOLLSEYES Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 chlorine tablet usually used in swimming pools per cube.Take the plastic tank out of the cage and paint it black then when dry replace it back in cage.May need to touch it up or just wrap the cube with black silage wrap if you can get your hands on some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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