Albert 888 Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Ok guys im thinking of getting a pcp multi shot that wont break the bank and that performs well. Shot a mates AA s410 which I thought was quite good and well built and also a rapid 7 which was also very good. Read about the bsa tactical which seams ok. Just looking at what options I have. I have a hw 95 springer for now but its a bit twangy when shot,think its the cocking cam thing that rattles. Which I could probably fettle. Im thinking about going down the compact road as in carbine- s200,will the barrel lenghth have any real accuracy problems over a longer barrel. In most certainly not new to shooting just never really had much to do with pcp's,and it will fill the gap I need it for as the rf is way to much gun for 10-25 ft away rats.it will have to be second hand,then do I go for a pump or bottle to fill it. Cheers Albert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted June 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Then do I go 177 or 22. Which will be better on shots per fill. I have allways had 22 air rifles had a couple of 177 pistols,but the pellets allways seem a little flimsy in my knumb overworked hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 if you don't want to break the bank bud then go for a Hatsan AT 44,,cracking little accurate rifle and cheap as chips to buy new also even cheaper second hand,,failing that then go for a AAs410 or 200 as you said both excellent machines but they hold their value better than the Hatsan incase you ever want to resell, regarding pellets you will get more shots per charge with a .22 than a .177 and my honest opinion is if you can afford it then get a bottle and not a pump to fill whatever you choose to buy,the reason behind a bottle is its effortless and also clean dry air which you don't get from a pump, also as for pellets .22 and .177 will both do the job fine but if its close range shooting your doing then go for .22 as the .177 tends to over penetrate but if its for longer distances your using it for then go for a .177 due to it having a flatter trajectory hope this helps cheers Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted June 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Thanks for the info evo,think I will pass on the hatsan and aim a little higher and go for a 22 air arms or somthing around the same quality or better, had my hw 95 for years now,and its been faultless. I may do some 25yrd indoor target work with also. Will keep my eyes open for a bargin. I didnt fancey fannying around with a pump,so a cylinder will be better.thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 If you can afford it you mentioned the AAS410 and tbh this is a cracking rifle so go for that. I had one in .177 and it was stunningly accurate.I only sold it cos I'm a Daystate fan and wanted a Huntsman Classic. ATVB in whatever you choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 The S410 would be the better bet-the 200 only has about 40 shots per fill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I've got the AAs410 (in 22) a cracking piece of kit. Do bear in mind that virtually all 'proper' target shooting with air rifles is with 177, if it's going to be dual-purpose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 If you're looking for a gun that is going to be used for short ranges, a .22 would be best, as you'll have less of a problem with over-penetration. I use a .177 and love it, but the vast majority of my shooting is field work at longer ranges in an environment where over penetration isn't going to damage anything behind the target. the S200 would be a great bet as it's a bit lighter and shorter than the S410, making it ideal for rating. Other options could be a Falcon Lighthunter or BSA Ultra SE (which you can get in .25 if you want a seriously good ratting cal.!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickB65 Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 For me the .177 is the better calibre as it has the flatter trajectory an dis easier to shoot. The .22 comes into its own when you go FAC - in my opinion. Started off with the AAS400 in .177 years ago and it was a cracking gun. Then went to the BSA R10 mk 2 again in .177 and then the HW100. Eventually went to the dark side of .22 for the HW97 which was a dream gun to shoot...... If I had to have another sub-12ft gun then I would go for the BSA R10 only because the HW100 had such a small air tank :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Problem if you go for a 22 because of 'over penetration' is that if you have rats at varying ranges you may miss some, especially if shooting at night where it is harder to accurately range things. .177 is what I converted to and enjoyed a lot more for it's versatility. Yes, pellets to go through animals (But also have this with my .22 springer and of course my .22 FAC Air), but if your backstop is acceptable it shouldn't be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 The Hatsan AT44 is a hell of a lot of gun for the money, don't knock it until you have tried it! 2 stage trigger, LW barrel, open sights, 2 maagzines, anti double load, good shot count and a reliable mechanism. Hatsan make quality rifles! The S200 is a good little gun, basically developed from a target pistol you know! Shot count not that high, but if being used for hunting more than enough to take on a warren or 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 The Hatsan AT44 is a hell of a lot of gun for the money, don't knock it until you have tried it! 2 stage trigger, LW barrel, open sights, 2 maagzines, anti double load, good shot count and a reliable mechanism. Hatsan make quality rifles! The S200 is a good little gun, basically developed from a target pistol you know! Shot count not that high, but if being used for hunting more than enough to take on a warren or 3. +1 on that. I loved my AT44 A little on the heavy side for standing shots but good otherwise and cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 Handled one of the more recent synthetic stocked ones at the weekend (doing a power test for a friend). The fully adjustable stock would be an expensive option on many rifles (butt pad and cheekpad move, spacers can also be inserted I believe), the trigger is even more refined than my first generation one (which had a beautifully light tigger with no creep) and the only annoying thing about it was the auto safety (which I still do not like, but is present even on my 60 S). The finish was very good, surpassing BSA PCP standards, the owner paid three huundred and 25 pounds including a scope and a silencer, new! If it goes wrong he has warranty and is very happily bowling bunnies over with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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