Got My First Rimfire

[dadrew]

How do you go about getting it chopped to 16"?

[Scully]

How do you go about getting it chopped to 16"?

Took it to a bloke who does all the local RFD's work. One RFD wanted to charge us 65 quid for this, plus another 100 to have it re-proofed.The bloke who does the actual work only charged us 35 to chop, re-crown and screw-cut. No re-proof was, or is necessary.

Shop around as prices can vary dramatically.

[Bewsher500]

Well, just been out with my new rifle to zero it. Zerroed at 60 yds (54 metres). Bearing in mind I haven't shot a .22 in well over 30 years (ex army), I finished up with a 2" group size (the last round on this target I snatched and knew that I had done it so didnt count it.

 

The sight isnt the best (4 x 32mm), so with a better scope and a bipod, I suspect I can tighten that up. I know some people only do three round groups, what are peoples opinions on that?

 

So the question is, "What next, better scope (if so which one, that wont break the bank) or a bipod (if so which one, that wont break the bank)?"

 

 

check the scope is OK before you go replacing it

4x is fine for 50yds

60yd zero leaves a slight high spot around 30-35 IIRC

50-55 is better for point and shoot to 60-65

 

http://www.gunsmoke.com/guns/1022/images/22subsonic_plot.gif

 

what was your firing position like on those shots?

eliminate you from the equation

use a bipod/bag, box, rest etc

get someone else to shoot that same set up

 

flyers happen but a 6" flyer at 60yds is extreme unless position is not firm

Edited June 25, 2014 by Bewsher500

[dadrew]

 

 

check the scope is OK before you go replacing it

4x is fine for 50yds

60yd zero leaves a slight high spot around 30-35 IIRC

50-55 is better for point and shoot to 60-65

 

http://www.gunsmoke.com/guns/1022/images/22subsonic_plot.gif

 

what was your firing position like on those shots?

eliminate you from the equation

use a bipod/bag, box, rest etc

get someone else to shoot that same set up

 

flyers happen but a 6" flyer at 60yds is extreme unless position is not firm

The scope is fine, just want a more powerful one (My eyes aren't as powerful as they once were!).

Firing position was fine, my intention is to get a bi-pod in the near future. The last round isn't a "flyer" as you put it, it was down to me, as I squeezed the trigger, it felt all wrong, should have aborted the shot and set it up again, in hind sight. I tried applying the same marksmanship principles as I did when I was shooting 7.62 mm SLR's in the army.

 

1. Position and Hold must be firm enough to support the weapon
2. Weapon should point naturally at the target.
3. Sight alignment must be correct.
4. Shot must be released and followed through with any physical effort

[nderfel]

 

1. Position and Hold must be firm enough to support the weapon
2. Weapon should point naturally at the target.
3. Sight alignment must be correct.
4. Shot must be released and followed through with any physical effort

that takes me back

 

 

[dadrew]

 

 

1. Position and Hold must be firm enough to support the weapon
2. Weapon should point naturally at the target.
3. Sight alignment must be correct.
4. Shot must be released and followed through with any physical effort

that takes me back

 

 

 

Frightned me that I could still remember it!

[kent]

Well, just been out with my new rifle to zero it. Zerroed at 60 yds (54 metres). Bearing in mind I haven't shot a .22 in well over 30 years (ex army), I finished up with a 2" group size (the last round on this target I snatched and knew that I had done it so didnt count it.

 

The sight isnt the best (4 x 32mm), so with a better scope and a bipod, I suspect I can tighten that up. I know some people only do three round groups, what are peoples opinions on that?

 

So the question is, "What next, better scope (if so which one, that wont break the bank) or a bipod (if so which one, that wont break the bank)?"

 

Before you start changing bits put it in the hands of a proven good shooter, who knows were the weak link is a present? Could be gun, ammo, mounts, scope its a process of illumination but best start with one that shouldn't cost owt hey?

 

3 x 3 shot groups do these prove more than a single 5 shot? Or what about 50 shots just one at each individual target, measure the furthest from the bull? To be fair the only bad way to assess things is to discount any shot that went bad ie. turn a 5 shot group into a three or four.

Sometimes I even fire two shots at a series of progressively further ranges when assessing ammo.

[dadioles]

Did you try some different makes of ammo or just what you were given?

[Brad93]

Clean the barrel then try a few different brands of ammo.

[dadrew]

To be fair the only bad way to assess things is to discount any shot that went bad ie. turn a 5 shot group into a three or four.

Sometimes I even fire two shots at a series of progressively further ranges when assessing ammo.

Why do you say its a bad way to assess things, to discount a bad shot, If you know it was a bad shot i.e. elbow slipped, you snatched at the trigger or whatever, but the other four were tight....

 

I will just add that this was the last group I fired on that day and was the first time I had fired the gun ever, so still getting used to it.

 

I haven't fired a .22 in 30 years and haven't fired a rifle in 14 years since leaving the army. I shot at Bisley in the army championships when I first joined up so don't consider myself a bad shot, just out of practice. The group will get tighter with time and practice.

Edited June 26, 2014 by dadrew

[geordieh]

Hi Dadrew

Give James Gibb gunsmiths a ring he will shorten recrown and rethread your rifle for £40 he is in Shoshcombe near bath tell him Geordie gave you his number 01761436827.And get a selection of different makes of ammo, rifles often like certain makes of ammo better.I am ex squaddy too. I live at Erlestoke so not too far if you want to have a go with a bipod before you buy one give me a shout.

Geordie

[dadrew]

Hi Dadrew

Give James Gibb gunsmiths a ring he will shorten recrown and rethread your rifle for £40 he is in Shoshcombe near bath tell him Geordie gave you his number 01761436827.And get a selection of different makes of ammo, rifles often like certain makes of ammo better.I am ex squaddy too. I live at Erlestoke so not too far if you want to have a go with a bipod before you buy one give me a shout.

Geordie

Thanks mate, I have a permission in that neck of the woods, out towards Market Lavington

[geordieh]

Thanks mate, I have a permission in that neck of the woods, out towards Market Lavington

Interesting I have a few round there I used to be the part time keeper for the School of Infantry shoot up Pear tree hill for 12 yrs.

[kent]

Why do you say its a bad way to assess things, to discount a bad shot, If you know it was a bad shot i.e. elbow slipped, you snatched at the trigger or whatever, but the other four were tight....

 

I will just add that this was the last group I fired on that day and was the first time I had fired the gun ever, so still getting used to it.

 

I haven't fired a .22 in 30 years and haven't fired a rifle in 14 years since leaving the army. I shot at Bisley in the army championships when I first joined up so don't consider myself a bad shot, just out of practice. The group will get tighter with time and practice.

 

Firstly I know nothing about your shooting but do know its a perishable skill if you don't keep it up. Secondly we don't discount shots because its easy to make excuses, if you fired accidentally then fine other than that I should include them in your averages ( it will then even out) We all make an odd bad shot but never discount the ones we pull onto target only those we pull off, yep it cuts both ways.

 

If you give it to a proven shooter and they get the same you have removed the "you" factor, nothing personal. Forces training means little unless you were specialist trained in which case I shouldn't need to type this

Edited June 28, 2014 by kent

[welshwarrior]

As above shooting degrades with out use, a bit like foot drill. The standard "marksmanship" training in the army is not great for accurate shooting IMHO coming from 15 years in green but also 20 years plus of rifle shooting.

 

A target with a heavy black on white cross will aid you to 'centre' your cross hairs better, aiding accuracy. Try making use of a sandbag. But first for me anyway have you tried various different rounds? Then get a known shot to shoot it see if it improves.