THE AD Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshAndy Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Only in America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Why? Just use dummies surely that isnt very sporting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 I did flick through it and did wonder why you thought that wasn't sporting? Then saw one towards the end, i can see why you said it now. Cant quiet see why its done like that for??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 The dogs didn't seem particularly good either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 I lasted about 1.50 before I would watch no more , I do not see where "British field trial" comes into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landofficer Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Terrible stuff and how easy were those retrieves from the open grass field should of just used already dead chickens, as already mentioned the dogs were not too good and In my eyes slow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Apart from the release of the birds, it looked like just about every retriever field trial I have ever seen. The "British Labrador Field Trials" , refers to the "breed". In the US there is the "American Labrador" and the "British Labrador". In discussions with my friends they explain that the "American labrador" has been bred for hunting, not showing. Most I have seen are not as heavy as our Labradors and have a "snipey" look to their heads, but thats about the only difference I could see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Apart from the release of the birds, it looked like just about every retriever field trial I have ever seen. The "British Labrador Field Trials" , refers to the "breed". In the US there is the "American Labrador" and the "British Labrador". In discussions with my friends they explain that the "American labrador" has been bred for hunting, not showing. Most I have seen are not as heavy as our Labradors and have a "snipey" look to their heads, but thats about the only difference I could see. The shape and quality of the dog is not why this was posted....our colonial friends seem better served holding up queues in their airports, spending trillions of dollars swanning around the worlds oceans and consuming far to much food per person.... However the term "sporting" is far better used in their game of baseball.... TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiLisCer Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Clearly not many of you have beeb to a trial in the UK then? As Cranfield rightly points out it is very similar and rarely do you see a sporting bird shot. They are usually nailed hard and close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 I lasted about 1.50 before I would watch no more , I do not see where "British field trial" comes into it. The shape and quality of the dog is not why this was posted....our colonial friends seem better served holding up queues in their airports, spending trillions of dollars swanning around the worlds oceans and consuming far to much food per person.... However the term "sporting" is far better used in their game of baseball.... TEH My comments regarding the breeds was in answer to the post quoted above (insert the word "Labrador" between "British" and "field trial". I know why the video (which has been around for a few years) was posted, it was posted to get at least one, "Only in America" response and then a few American bashing comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 My comments regarding the breeds was in answer to the post quoted above (insert the word "Labrador" between "British" and "field trial". I know why the video (which has been around for a few years) was posted, it was posted to get at least one, "Only in America" response and then a few American bashing comments. A few inverted comers will not detract from the facts.....and they are, it is not sporting....I have shot on spaniel field trials and it was billed as a " Spaniel Field Trial " no mention of American or British. TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 A few inverted comers will not detract from the facts.....and they are, it is not sporting....I have shot on spaniel field trials and it was billed as a " Spaniel Field Trial " no mention of American or British. TEH The video is entitled "British Labrador Field Trials". fenboy asked, "I do not see where "British field trial" comes into it." I then explained that in the USA they differentiate between British labradors and American labradors . To my knowledge in the USA they do not have an American spaniel which is different from an English spaniel. I agree its not sporting, I wasn't defending the action in the video, but I have entered dogs in field trials (lab and springer) and been a spectator at many others and I don't consider the shooting at most UK walked up field trials to be sporting either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berettacocker Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 " Typical Yanks ! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayDT10 Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Clearly not many of you have beeb to a trial in the UK then? As Cranfield rightly points out it is very similar and rarely do you see a sporting bird shot. They are usually nailed hard and close. +1, most people shoot on trials because they like seeing dogs work rather than the sporting birds. May as we'll shoot DTL otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berettacocker Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 +1, most people shoot on trials because they like seeing dogs work rather than the sporting birds. May as we'll shoot DTL otherwise. I've shot lots of retriever trials and shot the birds where I wanted to shoot them, admittedly the judges and trialers want them shot reasonably close to get the birds in the bag and ideally avoiding runners, but a few runners in a trial make for a better trial. Also if they want me to smash birds at 10-20 yds they can pay me to do it,not the other way around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayDT10 Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 I've shot lots of retriever trials and shot the birds where I wanted to shoot them, admittedly the judges and trialers want them shot reasonably close to get the birds in the bag and ideally avoiding runners, but a few runners in a trial make for a better trial. Also if they want me to smash birds at 10-20 yds they can pay me to do it,not the other way around! and your point is? . 90% of the shooting is birds up the behind no matter how far they are, i do enjoy shooting trials but as I said it's certainly not for the sport it's for the pleasure of watching dogs work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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