Gun butt pad fitting to extend stock by over an inch ?

[blasterjudd]

Ok I need to extend my AYA SXS stock by just over an inch anyone bought one off the shelf and done it themselves?

Is it easy to do?

What ones best to buy and from where should I purchase one?

If I do it myself what tools are required?

 

Anyone in Essex fit them ?

How expensive is it?

How long does it take to do ?

 

Your help and advice is appreciated guys

Thankyou

[steve_b_wales]

I used a rubber butt cover that slips over the stock. Before I fitted it, I placed a shaped, 1" piece of wood inside the cover. Once on the rifle, it gave an extra inch. It was'nt the best looking, but it did the job.

[welshwarrior]

Rubber never looks quite right on a Sbs a slivers pad can look ok, always look best in walnut in my eyes or an easy solution leather slip on pad, we do a 1" one

[birdsallpl]

Very easy, buy a 1inch recoil pad from eBay for £15 including postage. Remove the original butt plate and file / shape the recoil pad to fit and screw the recoil pad on. Keep the original butt plate in case you decide to sell the gun and the purchaser wants to remove the extension recoil pad. You nee a vice and a file plus a bit of sand paper. Takes about 30 minutes tops.

[HDAV]

Your in Essex so are recoil systems give them a call!

 

If you have a belt sander (fixed) and know how to use it you buy one and fit it to the stock

[JohnfromUK]

It rather depends. If its a nice piece of wood (as is often the case on the higher AyA grades) - I would strongly advise getting it done in wood. It will cost more, but will be worth it (in my view).

 

Otherwise, there are various from cheap 'plastic' through ebonite to expensive leather covered rubber pads that can be fitted. A slip over is OK to try a change, but they are inconvenient, can catch on clothes, and on a wet day water gets in.

[welshwarrior]

A Sbs stock normally won't have a butt plate it will be a shaped wooden end all part of the stock this will need to be cut flat to fit any pad or extension. You want insure you get the pitch correct or the gun will recoil and handle strangely.

 

Then use a sander to grind your choice to fit. Most smiths are £40 plus the pad to do it for you.

[Penelope]

I've always like the look of a well fitted London orange Silvers pad on a SxS.

 

http://www.kynochammunition.co.uk/silvers.html

Edited August 6, 2014 by Penelope

[TriBsa]

A Sbs stock normally won't have a butt plate it will be a shaped wooden end all part of the stock this will need to be cut flat to fit any pad or extension. You want insure you get the pitch correct or the gun will recoil and handle strangely.

 

Then use a sander to grind your choice to fit. Most smiths are £40 plus the pad to do it for you.

 

How do you cut or grind flat though. I've been thinking about an extension on one of mine with a curved butt. What would the reference point be? If it's got any degree of cast then across the flats of the cheeks wouldn't work. Is it done purely by eye?

 

Tom

Edited August 6, 2014 by TriBsa

[welshwarrior]

It done in relation to the rib same way you'd measure the pitch, getting square is a different issue.

[TriBsa]

Sorry you've lost me there. Perhaps I didn't phrase the question properly, should't have said flat. What I mean is, if you have to grind or cut off the end of the butt how do you ensure its square (ie no change in cast just a flat surface for the butt where before there was a concave one)?

 

Thanks

 

 

Tom

Edited August 6, 2014 by TriBsa

[sishyplops]

It done in relation to the rib same way you'd measure the pitch, getting square is a different issue.

 

There are two schools of thought on pad fitment, in my opinion the above is correct so the pad is at right angles to the rib, although many manufacturers cut square to the stock, beretta being the main one, I find a square to stock gun always wallops me in the cheek but a square to rib does not, a lot of gunsmiths will fit square to stock for ease if they have to cut the stock, as said above it can cause the gun to recoil very differently if you have it done differently to what you currently have. Most older winchesters are square to rib and a lot of people say they are soft to shoot maybe this is the reason, it certainly works for me

[TriBsa]

There are two schools of thought on pad fitment, in my opinion the above is correct so the pad is at right angles to the rib, although many manufacturers cut square to the stock, beretta being the main one, I find a square to stock gun always wallops me in the cheek but a square to rib does not, a lot of gunsmiths will fit square to stock for ease if they have to cut the stock, as said above it can cause the gun to recoil very differently if you have it done differently to what you currently have. Most older winchesters are square to rib and a lot of people say they are soft to shoot maybe this is the reason, it certainly works for me

 

Brilliant thanks! I can see what Welshwarrior meant now as to the reference point. So presumably it's a question of them fashioning a jig to hold the gun square to either a band saw for cutting or a linisher for grinding?

Edited August 8, 2014 by TriBsa

[sishyplops]

Easiest way is tape a long flat object Such as a spirit level along the barrel being mindful of any mid bead. Then get a set square or often most wood saws have this facility then draw a line along the stock , this way you will ensure you are square to rib, then put it on a band saw in a jig is best way to ensure the angle is maintained fit the pad then linish or belt sand the excess off, put a strip of tape on the stock so you know when you are close, if you google it it will come up on YouTube some American chap from midway USA explains it really well but annoyingly always says and that's the way it is or something like that at the end of each video. Many gunsmiths cut square to stock as it is easier on the bandsaw and less work to finish the pad ax the ends won't be angled, make sure you do the same as you have or try a gun like what you. Want to end up with or you may not like it, you can just screw the extension on first and use it as is to try it out, a square to rib gun recoils downwards and back , I find a square to stock one recoils up and back.

 

Hence I use a winchester

Edited August 8, 2014 by sishyplops

[TriBsa]

Easiest way is tape a long flat object Such as a spirit level along the barrel being mindful of any mid bead. Then get a set square or often most wood saws have this facility then draw a line along the stock , this way you will ensure you are square to rib, then put it on a band saw in a jig is best way to ensure the angle is maintained fit the pad then linish or belt sand the excess off, put a strip of tape on the stock so you know when you are close, if you google it it will come up on YouTube some American chap from midway USA explains it really well but annoyingly always says and that's the way it is or something like that at the end of each video. Many gunsmiths cut square to stock as it is easier on the bandsaw and less work to finish the pad ax the ends won't be angled, make sure you do the same as you have or try a gun like what you. Want to end up with or you may not like it, you can just screw the extension on first and use it as is to try it out, a square to rib gun recoils downwards and back , I find a square to stock one recoils up and back.

 

Hence I use a winchester

 

That sounds like a plan. I can now understand the how and just as importantly the why. I've reached an age now; or learn't from experience to give a job some thought rather than diving straight in as I used to do. The mental block I had was from holding the butt; without barrels, and not seeing a reference point to work to. I'll seek out that YouTube clip as well.

 

Thanks again

 

Tom

[welshwarrior]

There are two schools of thought on pad fitment, in my opinion the above is correct so the pad is at right angles to the rib, although many manufacturers cut square to the stock, beretta being the main one, I find a square to stock gun always wallops me in the cheek but a square to rib does not, a lot of gunsmiths will fit square to stock for ease if they have to cut the stock, as said above it can cause the gun to recoil very differently if you have it done differently to what you currently have. Most older winchesters are square to rib and a lot of people say they are soft to shoot maybe this is the reason, it certainly works for me

I disagree there are 2 schools of thought

 

1 pitch the angle of the face of the the butt is an important part of gun fit and needs to set to fit the owner.

 

2 it is to cut at right angle to comb or rib and I don't know about pitch (or in some case can't be bothered as the client won't know anyway).

 

Right angle to rib 0 pitch is better than right angle to comb, but will not suit everyone.

 

Rant over pet hate of mine.

[sishyplops]

I wasn't talking about the further discipline of gun fitting , the post was about lengthening the stock by fitting a pad, to which as I mentioned , you can fit square to rib or square to comb, why are you having a rant about it?

 

The op asked how to do it, so I answered it, if he had asked about having the gun correctly fitted to him, then it's off to a decent gunsmith

Edited August 8, 2014 by sishyplops

[welshwarrior]

Rant not aimed at you just the world in general as people forget that pitch effects how a gun fit and handles, if the OP is not lengthen the gun to sort out his gun fit whys he lengthening it.

[blasterjudd]

I only asked about gun pad fitting didn't expect to cause an argument ..... :-)

Now now fellas !!!!!