00jacksonp Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 On my small shoot we found 5 dead birds with no obvious cause (in the pen). The farmer who lets us shoot on his land has been a complete nightmare and cut the hedge where our pen is with a tractor. He has go so close that there is twigs all over the Pen and all over the electric fence. Has he been the cause of the death of these birds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich1985 Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 I would say no if they haven't huddled and killed each other like that and have no broken necks from flying into wire, I would suggest either keeping a very close eye on them and if any more die it could be a vet visit for you! Birds will shock but this normally results in a delayed death through not eating or drinking, the stress of the hedge cutter may well have brought on a disease challenge though. Regards rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 They can have a heart attack. I have seen big poults die when caught up and put in crates, and I killed one last year by putting it under too much pressure to get back in the pen through a pop hole, fall over flap flap flap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 In my experience, yes, they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Yes they can. That's why it is essential to keep stress down when taking delivery and releasing. Any dormant condition can suddenly erupt if the immune system is put under pressure. I play holy hell with blokes banging, clattering and shouting across the pens when the poults are only a couple of weeks put to wood. They reckon the birds need to get used to noise, but I'd sooner keep them calm initially - there's plenty of time for noise later. Plus I think they can be shepherded to a flushing point easily as a quieter group, rather than all just scattering in all directions at the first sign of a beater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 dont know about game poults....but turkeys yes...one young lad fed the poults making a lot of noise and whistling...time he got out 200 odd were dead....i have always been quiet and pussy footed around poults... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 They do when I drop me pants BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriusgarrulus Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 They do when I drop me pants BB I thought that was because they died laughing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00jacksonp Posted September 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Cheers guys. We have a radio ongoing in the pen to repel any passing predators . I thought this may get them used to noise but a flailing hedge trimmer is obviously a lot more traumatic. I released a few yesterday to free a bit of space in the pen and added more branches for them to hide in if they get scared. fingers crossed no more cop it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colc08 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 ''Plus I think they can be shepherded to a flushing point easily as a quieter group, rather than all just scattering in all directions at the first sign of a beater.'' :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 not overly relevant to your situation,but on two occasions I have plucked every single feather off a pigeon to see where hit and have found not a single hole/wound.......and these were picked pigeons from days shooting..........?spooky..I have no explanation....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordripon Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 A diy post mortem is needed ! I've been lead to believe pink blood full of little bubbles/froth around/ in the heart is a heart attack ?? look for any puncture wounds before opening them up as small hawks can leave very little sign . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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