the new hypa flaps usage tips

[kdubya]

Thought it might be interesting if those using them could share any tips, as getting the optimum movement out of them,

I myself have "played" somewhat with them regards rotary speed angle of bird etc, I have them now where I am happy with the flapping action and the attraction of them to real birds, BUT one flaps so so much better than the other, yet I have measured the rods both exact same lengths, both have the wing tips curled back, both wing rods go through the body at the same point etc etc, mine have had the wings tied back with fishing line to prevent them folding in high winds, and have been used in 25 to 30mph winds without problem, albeit I have glued the body frame's to the correx bodies as they were coming away in high winds,

so anyone else got any tips on the way they are using them?

cheers KW

[Mini Magnum]

To be honest they seem bit of a lark to setup.....is the performance better than real birds or the standard flocked flyers???

[Highlander]

Isn't it true that we all mess about/improve the decoys we buy to make them work better, last longer and look good. Lets hope Woody appreciates our efforts.

[cumbria Bill]

You say that the wing bar rods are the same length. Try measuring the distant between the pockets that the rods sit in. I spoke to "shootwarehouse" about this I was told that the pockets where sown on by hand and everyone was different lengths. Try shortening the bar of the one that flaps the least a little.

[pin]

The pair I recently got off hesky seem to work ok. My old man who knows nothing about pigeon or magnets nor hypa flaps managed to set it up in his garden yesterday, he sent me a video of them and they were flapping like mad.

 

Mind, I don't know if hesky had modified them in any way..

[markbivvy]

Sorry lads but i think when you pay good money out for something it should do what it said on the add WITHOUT any messing about after all they aint a £1 each if they were then you wouldnt mind and as to having to glue them down goodness that smackes of poor quality

very blue peter.

[kdubya]

Sorry lads but i think when you pay good money out for something it should do what it said on the add WITHOUT any messing about after all they aint a £1 each if they were then you wouldnt mind and as to having to glue them down goodness that smackes of poor quality

 

so you have never bought a computer , video, sky box etc , as I have and I am dam sure all mine needed a LOT of setting up to get the best out of them, life aint perfect EVERYTHING can be optimised , I asked in good faith if anyone has managed to improve / pick up any tips etc in using the hypa flaps, and in turn I put a few of the mods I had done thats all, I was not asking for a witch hunt or a sarcy I can do it with field craft alone ( its sure to come)comments,

 

For what its worth my take on these things is that they WORK, I am more convinced that its the movement ie the flapping rather than the UV paint, but as pigeon up my way are proving very very hard to decoy the most success I have had is using these things in fact I have just got back in from a couple of hours decoying, and in a howling gale at that and although I had a nightmare with my rotary and in the end the cable pulling from the motor housing, the hypa's stood up well the wind was far to strong for them but they are still intact and they pulled in a few birds I ended up with 19 should have been 30 the shots I had,once my rotary was goosed I tried some real birds on floaters and set a flapper up

but after 45 mins without a bird coming in I called it a day, if I get 12 months out of these things I will consider them VERY good value any more and they will prove to be a bargain, as unlike a few other "dead cert"latest must have pigeon pulling gizmo's! these things WORK.

cheers KW

[Blackbart]

Sorry lads but i think when you pay good money out for something it should do what it said on the add WITHOUT any messing about after all they aint a £1 each if they were then you wouldnt mind and as to having to glue them down goodness that smackes of poor quality

 

so you have never bought a computer , video, sky box etc , as I have and I am dam sure all mine needed a LOT of setting up to get the best out of them, life aint perfect EVERYTHING can be optimised , I asked in good faith if anyone has managed to improve / pick up any tips etc in using the hypa flaps, and in turn I put a few of the mods I had done thats all, I was not asking for a witch hunt or a sarcy I can do it with field craft alone ( its sure to come)comments,

 

For what its worth my take on these things is that they WORK, I am more convinced that its the movement ie the flapping rather than the UV paint, but as pigeon up my way are proving very very hard to decoy the most success I have had is using these things in fact I have just got back in from a couple of hours decoying, and in a howling gale at that and although I had a nightmare with my rotary and in the end the cable pulling from the motor housing, the hypa's stood up well the wind was far to strong for them but they are still intact and they pulled in a few birds I ended up with 19 should have been 30 the shots I had,once my rotary was goosed I tried some real birds on floaters and set a flapper up

but after 45 mins without a bird coming in I called it a day, if I get 12 months out of these things I will consider them VERY good value any more and they will prove to be a bargain, as unlike a few other "dead cert"latest must have pigeon pulling gizmo's! these things WORK.

cheers KW

KW Are you really saying they are better than REAL birds?

[Will Beasley]

ALL the pockets on the birds are the same distance apart now, and they have been that way for 10-12 weeks now. It was only the earlier ones when they were first introduced which had differing rod/pocket lengths, and even still they were all tested and hand made by myself before dispatch to make sure they worked.

 

KW was sent some of the very first ones in the country but for a long time now we've just cut all the rods the same length as the pockets now come all the same spacing.

[hawkeye]

ALL the pockets on the birds are the same distance apart now, and they have been that way for 10-12 weeks now. It was only the earlier ones when they were first introduced which had differing rod/pocket lengths, and even still they were all tested and hand made by myself before dispatch to make sure they worked.

 

KW was sent some of the very first ones in the country but for a long time now we've just cut all the rods the same length as the pockets now come all the same spacing.

 

 

 

KW's worked well along side mine today Will ended up with 70 birds between us :unsure:

[hesky]

ARGHHHHH

 

 

:unsure: Sorry lads but i think when you pay good money out for something it should do what it said on the add WITHOUT any messing about after all they aint a £1 each if they were then you wouldnt mind and as to having to glue them down goodness that smackes of poor quality

 

Yes but Hawkeye didn't pay for his lol

[DR JAMES]

Thought it might be interesting if those using them could share any tips, as getting the optimum movement out of them,

I myself have "played" somewhat with them regards rotary speed angle of bird etc, I have them now where I am happy with the flapping action and the attraction of them to real birds, BUT one flaps so so much better than the other, yet I have measured the rods both exact same lengths, both have the wing tips curled back, both wing rods go through the body at the same point etc etc, mine have had the wings tied back with fishing line to prevent them folding in high winds, and have been used in 25 to 30mph winds without problem, albeit I have glued the body frame's to the correx bodies as they were coming away in high winds,

so anyone else got any tips on the way they are using them?

cheers KW

 

My tip is if they don’t flap well on the Rotary then put them on the Floater / Bouncer as a landing pigeon. I have done this and with good success along with my heads up / down Sillosocks. I too was having a hard time getting mine to flap but with a lot of tweaking and help from other PW`s i have after about 6 times out in the field got them to flap well. I have folded the end of the wings, folded the front of the wings over the rods (could do with painting the underneath of the wings WILL) but what i found best after adjusting the angles ect was shortening the fishing line by pulling one side through then tying the other side then making sure both wings had the same length 1†at the most, this also stops the wings from folding over them self’s. Put the brown stronger rods in them also they seem to work better. :(

[v-max]

Hello i got a pair the other day & tryed in the garden & they worked well might be diffrent out in field but i think there ok.I havent realy tryed them yet at doo's but i thought they be good on a bouncer as i asked in a topic & they say it work's.I got some silsox decoy's & they performed well.