rangey Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 been looking at getting nv and dont know whats best.i like the photon but would have to buy 3,add on seems to be the way to go but ive heard that you need a pa scope and none of my scopes have parallax,so dont want to buy 3 new scopes.anyone know for sure if you need a pa scope for a nitesite wolf...also not sure of the shooting position of the nite site....any users out there that can give a bit of info on nitesite....thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Hi Rangy The Photon is a self contained unit so replaces your scope so no PA involved just put it on and away you go after zeroing. The Nite Site needs a PA scope to be really effective and is an add on unit to your current scope. Cheers Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Hi Rangy The Photon is a self contained unit so replaces your scope so no PA involved just put it on and away you go after zeroing. The Nite Site needs a PA scope to be really effective and is an add on unit to your current scope. Cheers Neil As above. The advantage of the Nite Site or similar add on is that it can be used with different rifles. Using a PA scope will get the best results, but it can be used with a non PA one. The difference is that using a non PA scope, you won't be able to see the scope's reticule clearly, but up against a fox sized target, it's okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangey Posted December 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 As above. The advantage of the Nite Site or similar add on is that it can be used with different rifles. Using a PA scope will get the best results, but it can be used with a non PA one. The difference is that using a non PA scope, you won't be able to see the scope's reticule clearly, but up against a fox sized target, it's okay. would a illuminated reticle counteract this...just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 would a illuminated reticle counteract this...just a thought I used to own a NS200, and one of my scopes had an IR on it. I did'nt switch it on, but was told that it would not damage it. I use a Cobra Merlin now, and an IR can be used with this without damage being caused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Infrared has a longer wavelength than visible light so it focuses at a different distance, a parallax adjustable scope will allow you to focus for ir, otherwise your image will be unfocused. I have a dedicated night vision rifle and a day rifle, could you get away with having just one fitted with a photon and the others remain day rifles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangey Posted December 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Infrared has a longer wavelength than visible light so it focuses at a different distance, a parallax adjustable scope will allow you to focus for ir, otherwise your image will be unfocused. I have a dedicated night vision rifle and a day rifle, could you get away with having just one fitted with a photon and the others remain day rifles? ive thought about this but i use all 3 rifles for day and nite...might work out better to change scopes and use add on nv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb79 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Have you had a look at the two new products coming soon - ATN X-Sight and the Nightmaster Atom addon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim1981 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 I have a photon with a nite tek illuminator fitted to my .22 RF for rabbit shooting ! It's a good piece of kit and I'm impressed with it for ranges upto 100yds realistically ! I also use it in the day too ! It's black and white, u can clearly make out your quarry , but it's obviously not as clear as a day scope ! I have a .17 HMR with a day scope which i try and use in the day if possible ! Have used the photon on my .223 but it's limited past 100 yds really because of clarity and low magnification ! Rimfire brilliant , centre fire ok to 100 Yds ! I would highly recommend an additional IR illuminator too as the built in ones are a bit **** if I'm being honest ! Also photon is a doddle to zero and setup, battery life seems impressive too ! Hope this helps ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telf Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 i have a mk1 photon which i used purely as night shooting,but have just sold the gun it was on and am considering selling the photon and getting an add-on in its place,to be able to use all rifles,but am now thinking about getting 2 weaver rails and 3 sets of qd scope rings,so being able to take the day scope off drop the photon on,which would have been zeroed to both guns previously,noting the settings on windage/elevation,and then altering according to whichever gun it went on,as im not really sure about head position with an add-on such as the nt-300,well at least thats my theory at present Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 I have owned both I still own the ns200 found the picture on the photon to be not as good I can also easily change the ns200 from one rifle to another easily so very versatile ... A second hand ns200 is a very good buy daylight on an ns200 does not damage and found no problem using the space invader screen to look through is quite comfortable compared to an addon were you need long arms and hold your head nearly off the stock the ns is also very light unlike some of my dedicated night vision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Using my Cobra Merlin with a non PA scope, I found that with fox sized targets, I could see the reticule clear enough to pick my point of aim. On smaller targets (rabbits) I could not pinpoint where I wanted to shoot it (head shot) so did not bother shooting at them. My Cobra Merlin will be used in conjunction with my .22 Hornet /MTC Genesis scope, which is excellent. I have an ATN X Sight on order, which I have been told today, via email, that they are due in the UK next January (for the 3-12x version) I am debating to cancel my order and stick with my Cobra Merlin, for the amount of NV shooting I will be doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangey Posted December 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 thanks for all the information guys....didnt realise tyhere was so much choice out there...had a read up on the atn x sight..looks a good bit of kit for the money..still like the idea of a add on,but that would mean a change of scopes..toyed with the idea of qd scope rings..photon looks ok for my rimfires,but not the 223.....confused or what...might just stick to the lamp ...think i will wait till the shooting show and have a look at them all...again thanks for all your input.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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