Thunderbird Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 I'm interested in user experiences of hush power shotguns. On searching here and on other forums opinion seems a bit divided on this. So primarily from the user's perspective, what in your experience is the quietest, and with what cartridge combo produces the best effect / noise tradeoff? I've been recommended a 410 pump and I'm tempted to, but just wondering what other options are available. This is going to be for close-ish range rough shooting. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 I'd just use your 12 bore and turn the volume down on your Dre Beats bro. It'll end up quieter I hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) Hello mate. I use a hushpower mossberg pump in .410 now and then . And i get on okay with it . I tend to use 3" eley 18 grm of 5s . They do have a bit of crack . However sooo much depends on your surroundings. If your shooting into an open field for instance then there very quiet. If your shooting down the side of a building then all of them will have a crack to them . When using the above shells . If you are using the 2" you can use them pretty much anyway with annoying anyone or anything . The 2.5" are a great all round compromise on sound and punch . With regards to the full barrel moderated shotguns like the baikals for instance are a fraction quieter but you only have the one shot . So it really depends on your needs . Just to add . You will have to get used to the new point of aim . As they tend to shoot rather low . I use the " if i can see it . Ive missed " method when aiming . Edited January 14, 2015 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new shot Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Hi, I have a pedretti 410 hush power single shot,it is very quiet and as it's got a fully moderated barrel it's probably the quietest along side the newer version of it which is built off a Yildiz.. I also have the 20G o/u hush power which is no way as quiet as the 410 but still pretty good.. I love the 410 but I find myself wanting the extra shot. I have not had a go on the pump version hush power in 410 but if I was getting one now I would probably go for the pump for extra shot. I was thinking about seeing if Hushpower would build me a O/U410 with a fully moderated barrel like my 20 g as it would give the extra shot and would still be quiet as it would be fully moderated.. I use Hushpower carts but they are hard to get but I find whatever 410 carts I use they are all pretty quiet but subsonic obviously a bit quiter. Lots of people home load and get good results but that ain't for me. I would say go for the single barrel yildiz or secondhand pedretti if noise is more important than shot quantity but if noise isn't the biggest issue I would say go for the 3 shot pump they do look good fun!...good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markbrowning Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 The quietest hushpower will be the .410 Then out of them it will be break barrel over pump, such as the Baikal one. The quietest cartridge I found to be was the ely subsonic and the Hull clay & game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markbrowning Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 I also had a 12g hushpower at one stage, again using the subs were very quiet. However the dam thing was just too long and very unwieldy. All depends on the budget and what range your shooting too. Always been very keen to try a 20b O/U hushpower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEd85 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 http://www.gunmart.net/gun_review/hushpower_baikal_410 Hopefully that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 dudes, first of all, you need to realise that cartridge choice is the big x factor when it comes to subsonics. not all subsonics are created equal. now the other biggest factor of subsonics is gas volume, but not entirely... because its also gas volume vs moderator size. the factors are speed vs sound barrier gas volume vs outside atmosphere gas volume vs moderator (to absorb the gas volume into the baffles to reduce the gas volume breaking the sound barrier) but also not limited to... reloading recipe, reloading pressures (very important) gas volume vs silencer size rough shooter on here did some development into subs, (of which i commend him so highly.) some subs he did make were under 1050fps but they were loud. this was because the gas behind the shot saturated the baffles then still broke the sound barrier. (bang!) however i on the other hand did 28 gram and 32g subs, with either odd powder / load combination to pop clean, the powders i use were very fast, i used these to burn clean with very little gas volume. i knew it was a low gas volume because when "x" grains of powder it still produces x grains of gas. chemically we have not added anything or taken anything away. this is food for thought. dont assume a .410 silenced shotgun is quieter than a 12gauge silenced shotgun because of the smaller bore. i`ve a vested interest in 12gauge only because i reload for that. full stop thats my drive. the 20 gauge versions are good (mr sits should chime in) mr "roughshooter" has tried some of my subs and highly praised them (i think), and he`s using a 9" mod jobbie (maybe / i thinkso /??) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted January 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Thanks very much for the opinions so far. Makes very interesting reading. Not the easiest of subjects eh? I shall keep reading... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 What are you shooting Tbird? If mostly rabbit why not use a .22lr or air? If you have duck on your roughshoot you may have issues getting steel shot in .410 and need to reload your own (maybe someone else can expand on this). If just "fezants" then why worry about the noise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted January 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 What are you shooting Tbird? If mostly rabbit why not use a .22lr or air? If you have duck on your roughshoot you may have issues getting steel shot in .410 and need to reload your own (maybe someone else can expand on this). If just "fezants" then why worry about the noise? There are a combination of factors at play but it's for flying and for ground stuff, where noise is an issue for both me and the surroundings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 I have experience with the mossberg pump and the baikal single shot, the mossberg is a lot louder than the baikal single shot. Pros and cons with both, pumps louder but holds more carts, single shot is quieter but only one shot. I've got the single shot as that's what was needed for myself as noise was the issue. The subsonic cartridges are a waste of money as they aren't that quiet compared to standard rounds. The quietest round I have found was the eley 2-1/2 fourlong Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markbrowning Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 http://www.gunmart.net/gun_review/hushpower_baikal_410 Hopefully that helps V good article, somes things up nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Quietest in order are- 1-Pedretti .410 hushpower 2-Baikal stealth .410 hushpower 3-Mossberg pumpaction .410 hushpower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) Spot on with the above in that order. Edited January 15, 2015 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted January 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) Thanks so much for the info and opinion guys, lots of food for thought here. I'll let you know what I end up doing but first off is to borrow a Baikal Hush off a mate and see how I get on with that. Edited January 15, 2015 by Thunderbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Thanks so much for the info and opinion guys, lots of food for thought here. I'll let you know what I end up doing but first off is to borrow a Baikal Hush off a mate and see how I get on with that. You are very lucky Tbird, does he have a range of different cartridges? And will he let you try a pump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted January 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 And will he let you try a pump? Any port in a storm mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutt Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 eley fourlong 12.5 grams Baikel hushpower full barrel moderator good for use around farm buildings on bunnies rats crows and feral's without disturbing the stock housed in the yard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA-airgunner Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 I use a baikal 410 full moderator in this video If memory serves me well I was shooting bornahgi 3" shells ..... 410 hushpower: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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