CharlesP Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) The newer crop of Berettas have matt black appearance to the barrels. Sometimes they wear, and I'm told there is a "touch-up" preparation that'll hide the damage. Does anyone know what one could use to remove this cosmetic stuff, to see how much wear is really there? Edited January 21, 2015 by CharlesP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) Can you be a touch more specific as to WHAT it is you wish to remove. If it is what I presume, the touch up paint, try some 0000 grade steel wool and some 3 in 1 oil and gentle rubbing on the painted area. Just make sure that a touch up finish has been applied BEFORE trying this. Edited January 21, 2015 by Westley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesP Posted January 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Westley - thank you. I have just taken delivery of a new gun. I'm convinced that it's not as new as it should be. I think I've seen this very one before, and walked away from it. One of the reasons I walked away was wear on the blue/black where the forend touches the metal. I suspect it's been touched in, and I would very much like to see if that's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sishyplops Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 It's very very common to get bluing wear on a used gun where the forend meets the barrel, A. Is it used B. Is it supposed to be new C. Make and model will help the PW massive to help you , there are some very knowledgeable guys and gals on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Probably been "tried before it was sold " too many times, Cant have it both ways ,some one has to have it. Personally feel that any gun that has been out on trial is now second hand . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) Or at a minimum a 'Demo' model. Be prepared to "Name and Shame" then ! Edited January 21, 2015 by Westley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesP Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Sishyplops - it's a Beretta Outlander. This isn't a "Try before you buy" Nor is it a "demo". Further information has come to light, and I really am a bit stumped as to how to react. It's my understanding that a new gun will be available today - that's "new" as in "delivered just now from GMK and nobody has opened the box". But knowing what I now know I don't think I can leave it at that. I am more than a little cross, and words like "dishonest" and "fraudulent" and the like come to mind. Trading Standards? Police? I know the shooting press won't be interested because of the advertising revenue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 OP, Sounds like a clear cut case,If sold to you as new and it is'nt,Just reject it.Do NOT go scratching/removing anything simply reject it.There is only 1 definition of New,that is 1st owner unused item. If sold as 'as new' or 'as new condition' that is slightly different and is implicitly saying it is secondhand..What you want resolved is simply to have the gun you paid for,ie a new gun..I cannot see the police or authorites having any interest in your plight unless you can prove the business has sold many old as new and it is a recurrent practise...Return to gun to the manager/owner,stating this is clearly not what I paid for please replace with new.Only if they dispute this would I even consider mentioning trading standards etc. Give the shop the opportunity to correct the mistake before throwing any toys. atb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Around 4 weeks after I bought my outlander the chrome lining detatched from the inside of the barrel After a few weeks with gmk they held there hands up and sent a replacement barrel saying the original is un repairible ,on arrival it was obviously second hand. Sent it back and I then received a brand new one , definitely new , it was covered in a sticky oil/grease for protection not Like the first so say new one Any typical gmk poor service like many other threads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesP Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Thanks for that Dougall, it is indeed a clear cut case. It's actually a bit worse than that, but I can't go into any details as yet; more bits to fill in as it were. I won't be throwing any toys out of the pram, I'll be awaiting my brand new one today. BUT - I really don't want this particular gun ending up in their rack again as new because it isn't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 if the gun was damaged whilst on the dealer's books then the dealer should take the hit or claim on insurance. But dumping a less than flawless gun on someone in the hope they'll be too stupid or inexperienced to notice is unforgivable. I never cease to marvel at how backward and incompetent the gun trade is. New shotguns aren't cheap Chinese made strimmers, they're premium products at premium prices and as such customers we should be treated properly. I have 5 dealers within 30 miles. Only 1 is grasping enough to be considered borderline dishonest but not one of the others really comprehends customer service, so for the last 2 major purchases I've travelled to a dealer over 70 miles away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesP Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Replacement now delivered. Well done the RFD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a303 Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 ''But knowing what I now know I don't think I can leave it at that. I am more than a little cross, and words like "dishonest" and "fraudulent" and the like come to mind.'' Funnily enough just been here myself recently. The gun trade is in the dark ages for customer services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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