Luckyshot Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) Good question what i dont get is they will give you a 308 because you have had 1 stalk this i know for a fact now this person and many others on here havent got any land to zero it on never mind shoot after. Good luck to them but the home office guide lines dosent mention going on stalks and granting permits. By going on a stalk and getting a 308 that gives you all the knoledge you need to know to have it dont think so my mate has got 13 yrs holding a centerfire rifle he has got land to shoot it on he has got the landowner permission to shoot any DEER that cross the land and they say no he phoned BASC and they make a phone call and return with looks like your back is against the wall well if that is all they have done and i dont know if it is mabe they are doing something else but if it is all they have done thats well worth 70 quid a year i dont think Why am I not suprised, atleast 2 threads on here where basc have been useless at getting anything done. Edited February 14, 2015 by Luckyshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 In post 61 you said Rim Fire that your friend wanted to drop their challenge, if that is what he has told his case officer at BASC...well what can we do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew f Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 I always send the variation off with written permissions never had a problem and this no deer thing is a load of **** I would keep fighting it. So what's a target range for then? In a nut shell yes he didnt have it in writing when he applied but told the FAO he can get it if he wants but no not good enough he said west mrecier said no deer on the land i dont know if there was or wasent at the time of passing the ground for a 243 but we have seen deer there as i said not all the time but how many can garantee they will see a deer every time they go out he has let it drop now as he is afraid that they may get funny over his renewell you got people going on 1 stalk and getting a 308 where he has no ground to shoot the thing on where my mate is trying to do the right thing and be all legal if he see one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted February 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) In post 61 you said Rim Fire that your friend wanted to drop their challenge, if that is what he has told his case officer at BASC...well what can we do? He never told BASC he told me he hasent heard off BASC since the 1 call they made you cant go on what some person has wrote on a forum i am not the person in question you should be incontact with him not what i say on PW poor service Edited February 14, 2015 by Rim Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 (edited) Think there is an issue here with the simple phase of 'good reason to possess' and it sounds like the Firearms department don't think there is for a 243. I have never encountered Firearms being that difficult unless there is a reason, sure they can be hard work. My first bit of ground I had was only rated for rimfire but Munty's became a problem along with the occasional Roe but I had to jump through hoops with doing the DSC1 before Gloucestershire would grant 243 though the FEO that came out had no problem with passing the land for 243. Now Firearms realise that many will complain that the DSC1 isn't a legal requirement so give the option of a 3 month mentoring spell. Trouble is some feel the only way to empower their man hood is to have something with the case size of 243 or bigger and scroll through history to find out if a deer had passed across the land since the iceage, as most forces will not allow just for fox. The 223 round is the best fox calibre, the 243 is just louder and more expensive to feed unless of course you shoot on windswept moorland and need a heavy bullet. The fallow in Herefordshire have been hammered, were I used to see 30 out in the sun I now see none, in matter of fact I know two experienced stalkers who have packed up due to the over shooting of what was a healthy and widespread herd. My advice, get some ground with some deer on it, pref were they are actually a problem. Edited February 14, 2015 by Redgum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonker Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Update:- Further to post 5 on this thread. Today I got my variation back for .243 on my open ticket from Avon & Somerset, about 2 weeks after sending it in. (you can't knock that) No questions asked, just the variation returned with what I wanted. I hasten to add that I do have 3 different farms I can shoot Deer on, but wasn't asked to provide any names and addresses. So it seems to me, that the way to go is for your mate to attend a half day firearms course, get his certificate, and send it off. it'll cost him £100 and if his force is like ours, that may well meet their criteria. ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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