Guest cookoff013 Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) Well guys. Just like to say a big thank you to a very good friend, roughshooter aka Graham for helping me sort some test loads. Both he and I have been experimenting with ba10. Alas my new test loads came back pants. A little adjustment will get my goal. We set up to make a fast 21gram fibre ead load in a 70mm hull. The results came back not ideal, but has ended up as a 21 gram fibre subsonic. To say the recoil is mild an understatement. I think the pressure is too low. So I'm not going to publish unless its really important. Its consistent. I have some basis for the next loads. I would like to again publicly thank Graham. He has helped immensely. Thank you! Edited March 7, 2015 by cookoff013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) A good honest post Cook And without you, Andy and Graham trying and testing, how would us mere mortals go forward........Good stuff, keep on it and let us know when you get it as you want it Edited March 7, 2015 by turbo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Very true. I think this reloading malarky is tough. One thing I'd like to point out is, we are trying new loads, new powders, and essentially "wildcatting" not building a recipe to improve an old one. The bottom line of my load is, Graham got it made and tested. It popped and consistent at 250bar. Its got room for wiggle. Low speed, but consistent. I find we reload in squirts and spurts. A whole bunch fails, we adjust then most pass. We have a start for the next load. So we can screen the load one grain at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biketestace Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) Graham is a top man indeed Edited March 7, 2015 by biketestace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughshooter Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Biketestace must want something Onwards and upwards the test was a good starting point. The Birmingham Proof house is extremely helpful and service is excellent and I would recommend people to take time out and visit if they are in Birmingham. I had 8 loads tested and most produced some excellent results. I tested one 10 bore load that has been used this season by a few fowlers and turned out to have a pressure of 1282Bar - not a load you would want to use on a regular basis if you wanted to keep all your body parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted March 7, 2015 Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 I tested one 10 bore load that has been used this season by a few fowlers and turned out to have a pressure of 1282Bar - not a load you would want to use on a regular basis if you wanted to keep all your body parts This would have been a steel load would it not? I think it's about time DEFRA considered the detrimental long term side effects on the human body shooting fast load steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Biketestace must want something Onwards and upwards the test was a good starting point. The Birmingham Proof house is extremely helpful and service is excellent and I would recommend people to take time out and visit if they are in Birmingham. I had 8 loads tested and most produced some excellent results. I tested one 10 bore load that has been used this season by a few fowlers and turned out to have a pressure of 1282Bar - not a load you would want to use on a regular basis if you wanted to keep all your body parts yes iv put a few batches through this year 10 in all some were "safe" as given by others and came back 1320bar on the high side so I don't trust any internet data unless it has a test sheet and load details . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 yes iv put a few batches through this year 10 in all some were "safe" as given by others and came back 1320bar on the high side so I don't trust any internet data unless it has a test sheet and load details . Good man. The average is not the only criteria with shells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatFreddysCat Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Care to share what these high pressure loads were? I'm using C+G data sheets for my 10 bore loads and am assuming that their quoted pressures are correct. However, one load did have a heavy recoil in my 9 1/2 lb SxS and I reduced the powder by 2 grains just in case it was on the limit. Not seen any difference in killing ability for the reduction. Biketestace must want something Onwards and upwards the test was a good starting point. The Birmingham Proof house is extremely helpful and service is excellent and I would recommend people to take time out and visit if they are in Birmingham. I had 8 loads tested and most produced some excellent results. I tested one 10 bore load that has been used this season by a few fowlers and turned out to have a pressure of 1282Bar - not a load you would want to use on a regular basis if you wanted to keep all your body parts yes iv put a few batches through this year 10 in all some were "safe" as given by others and came back 1320bar on the high side so I don't trust any internet data unless it has a test sheet and load details . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK fowler Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Care to share what these high pressure loads were? I'm using C+G data sheets for my 10 bore loads and am assuming that their quoted pressures are correct. However, one load did have a heavy recoil in my 9 1/2 lb SxS and I reduced the powder by 2 grains just in case it was on the limit. Not seen any difference in killing ability for the reduction. mine were 31/2" steel loads with 381 powder 39 gram load + buffer. data was off pm on face book page claimed to be safe at 43 grains of powder in a ched case .sent the same load off in a fioc case at 41 grains and 39 grains .the speed was good the pressure was above 1200 bar an both loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 This would have been a steel load would it not? I think it's about time DEFRA considered the detrimental long term side effects on the human body shooting fast load steel. Are you being serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatFreddysCat Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 mine were 31/2" steel loads with 381 powder 39 gram load + buffer. data was off pm on face book page claimed to be safe at 43 grains of powder in a ched case .sent the same load off in a fioc case at 41 grains and 39 grains .the speed was good the pressure was above 1200 bar an both loads Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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