welshdragon77 Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Hi all, In this day and age lamping for foxes is coming very popular, there are pros doing it, amateurs and local farmers. Im all for hunting and lamping foxes but I think foxes should only be taken from end of August start of September, unless they are causing trouble ie rouge foxes taking lambs during lambing time and hitting poultry pens. I enjoy lambpng as do the rest of you but I beleive in live and let live , also fox numbers around here have decreased and as all you hunters know if you want to hunt foxes and have our sport there in a couple of months we must let the fox have a life for a while....or we are shooting ourselfs in the foot. This post in not to cause trouble or point a fingure all foxes causing trouble should be taken but if they are not causing trouble leave them until september, we still want plenty of our quarry then.. Thanks Welshdragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rabo Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 youve got a good point there,ive seen in my area rabbits and hares nearly wiped out by over hunting,the same will happen with foxes,more and more people are getting rifles especially for foxes.when would your season end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 see your point but if out rabbit shooting and one pop,s out at 50 yrds do you let it run don't think so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 but I think foxes should only be taken from end of August start of September, very short season that was, hardly worth charging the battery. whatever next. are you a dogging man by any chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rabo Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 ive seen the odd hare gettin up in front of me i just wouldnt shoot it they are very rare,sometimes you have to resist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 ive seen the odd hare gettin up in front of me i just wouldnt shot it they are very rare *** don't shoot hare,s now full stop they do no harm on dairy farms but foxes do your point please ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tikkamark Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 also fox numbers around here have decreased Welshdragon It just depends on where you are around my part you can never get on top of the growing population of them usually if i get a fox you will hear a fox out calling in the same spot a week later and there is a lot of foxes that will simply not come near the lamp and wont ever be got using that method.its just a matter of opinion really but i would rather see a fox shot humainly with the suitable caliber than left to be hunted and torn asunder by a pack of hounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rabo Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 ive seen the odd hare gettin up in front of me i just wouldnt shot it they are very rare *** don't shoot hare,s now full stop they do no harm on dairy farms but foxes do your point please ? point is you have to learn to hold back sometimes, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Hi all, In this day and age lamping for foxes is coming very popular, there are pros doing it, amateurs and local farmers. Im all for hunting and lamping foxes but I think foxes should only be taken from end of August start of September, unless they are causing trouble ie rouge foxes taking lambs during lambing time and hitting poultry pens. I enjoy lambpng as do the rest of you but I beleive in live and let live , also fox numbers around here have decreased and as all you hunters know if you want to hunt foxes and have our sport there in a couple of months we must let the fox have a life for a while....or we are shooting ourselfs in the foot. This post in not to cause trouble or point a fingure all foxes causing trouble should be taken but if they are not causing trouble leave them until september, we still want plenty of our quarry then.. Thanks Welshdragon I have to say well said and I totally agree ...........There comes a time when you have to say is it sporting to shoot a vixen or dog allowing their litter to die a slow death from starvation ............I don't believe many actually locate the earth and dig out using Dogs to dispatch the remianing litter quickly . Again I emphasise that if they are in abundance and a nuisance in one form or another then that is a different matter . Just my views and nothing more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 ive seen the odd hare gettin up in front of me i just wouldnt shot it they are very rare *** don't shoot hare,s now full stop they do no harm on dairy farms but foxes do your point please ? point is you have to learn to hold back sometimes, on fox,s you will be lucky bloody smarter than human,s so if the chance come,s i will take it as for learning to hold back had rabbits run between me legs and let them run , just not fox,s they kill for the sake of it and not for food Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rabo Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 ive seen the odd hare gettin up in front of me i just wouldnt shot it they are very rare *** don't shoot hare,s now full stop they do no harm on dairy farms but foxes do your point please ? point is you have to learn to hold back sometimes, on fox,s you will be lucky bloody smarter than human,s so if the chance come,s i will take it as for learning to hold back had rabbits run between me legs and let them run , just not fox,s they kill for the sake of it and not for food hi magman just when you mention dairy farms,was talking to FAO,he said local farmer had applied for 22 cause foxs had mauled one of his calfs,i didnt think they would go for something that big, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 is it sporting to shoot a vixen or dog allowing their litter to die a slow death thats a different thing Ivan, there is vixen round my way i could have flattened a couple of times,found her and the cubs when the cubs where still blue. but did let them be. she has now moved them and wont be shot until i wellie the cubs first. iam quite happy to let them be for now all of em, but if they start to be bad then they will be dealt with.you cant say to farmers oh lets leave em till they have reared their young.they wont have it and will get other folk in to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 ive seen the odd hare gettin up in front of me i just wouldnt shot it they are very rare *** don't shoot hare,s now full stop they do no harm on dairy farms but foxes do your point please ? point is you have to learn to hold back sometimes, on fox,s you will be lucky bloody smarter than human,s so if the chance come,s i will take it as for learning to hold back had rabbits run between me legs and let them run , just not fox,s they kill for the sake of it and not for food hi magman just when you mention dairy farms,was talking to FAO,he said local farmer had applied for 22 cause foxs had mauled one of his calfs,i didnt think they would go for something that big, got a farmer at the moment moaning because one is ******** in the sheds with the calfs , but they will have a go at a calf if it shows any sign of weakness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 I think it will be a matter of time before a close season becomes the normal, parts of America , Alaska, have a close season on Varmint, & the way the Anti's are motivated, I think they will pick up on this, another chip of the block. There will be Pros & Cons on this, everyone to there own, also, certain circumstances like lamb, chicken killers are a differnt kettle of fish, & should be sorted. My 2p, BJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 you cant say to farmers oh lets leave em till they have reared their young.they wont have it and will get other folk in to do it. One sure way of losing your permission if you did Mark ............What the farmer don't know don't hurt though and you and you alone can determine as to whether taking the shot is justified as I will during times of breeding . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 I will shoot, snare or trap a fox at any time day or night 24/7 year around when I get the oppertunity. That's my opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs and shouldn't get any grief for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootingman Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I will shoot, snare or trap a fox at any time day or night 24/7 year around when I get the oppertunity. That's my opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs and shouldn't get any grief for that And so will I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Well each to their own, and it depends what is at stake. I know of two Fox earths, and could ambush them easily, but unless the farmer wants them shot now, i will leave them alone till later. But when i was shooting on a Pheasent shoot, we didn't give them any peace, and were taken 24/7, it depends on your land and what you deam to be best for you. If you are shooting on one bit of land and no-one else is shooting the surrounding land you create a vacum by the one's shot and end up with more to be taken, because they are out looking for a new patch. If someone needs to shoot them 24/7 i support you and your decision, and if you don't i support you too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I think it has to depend on the individual circumstances. I run a pheasant shoot, and therefore will shoot/trap/snare foxes 365 days a year on that particular estate. I also get asked to control foxes on various other surrounding farms with game and/or livestock, and will do so when asked, independant of the time of year. However, I have another plot of permission that has no livestock or game on it, and the farmer is not bothered about foxes, so I leave them alone on that farm. Shooting them here would be purely for sport, and that's not my bag I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 agree that it depends on circumstances. also any time that I have spoken to someone anti fox shooting they say its not an effective way of controlling the population, that always confuses me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 agree that it depends on circumstances. also any time that I have spoken to someone anti fox shooting they say its not an effective way of controlling the population, that always confuses me I have just been told that their are other ways without using guns to hunt or vermin control by an anti (even larsson traps require a gun for the final dispatch) I agree shooting foxes is entirely circumstantial, if I had a shotgun my farmer would expect me to shoot every fox shootable on sight no question. That is because he also runs shoots on his land and rears pheasants. If he didn't have the pheasants and just the cabbages & sprouts he wouldn't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballie Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I also run my own pheasant shoot, and therefore will shoot/trap/snare foxes 365 days a year on my estate, but don't shoot me down for my views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conor Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I will shoot, snare or trap a fox at any time day or night 24/7 year around when I get the oppertunity. That's my opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs and shouldn't get any grief for that spot on there john! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tikkamark Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 . I know of two Fox earths, and could ambush them easily, but unless the farmer wants them shot now, i will leave them alone till later. Im in the same boat as you kip there is active fox earths behind my place but i will leave them well alone because they are not causing me any grief or any of the farmers in my locality.But what is causing 10 times more hassle than any fox around my area at the moment is domestic dogs roaming around at night i had to shoot three in the last 2 weeks for a farmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronan nee Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 in my opinion foxes are nothing but trouble 365 days a year. ronan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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