Smiler23 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Hia fellas, Iv just made my first batch of cartridge, I got loading gear at lowther show on sunday(clay and game) iv pattern tested them this morning.. There are 182 shot per shell(no 2) at 50 yrd 1/4 choke 68 in 30" circle (37 %) and 1/2choke ..56 (30.7%).. Can I improve on this? If so how do I go about it.. I'm using 41grn cx2000 +150 , multi metal wad , 42 grm no2 steel , felt spacer then crimp.. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Seems low , especially the half choke result , are you sure the gun fits you ? I would have said it could have been improved with more choke at that range . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler23 Posted August 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Yeah I thought it was low after reading what others are achieving.. Gun fits lovely,can't wait to get out with it (would that effect patterns tho)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Obviously gunfit will affect the pattern because if it does not fit great you will not be getting the centre of the pattern on target and the further the range the further out it will get. I would try at 30- 40 yards and see what you get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) What choke powder you using. By choke I mean factory or other. Edited August 22, 2015 by Farma Geddon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Is this a modern 10g? If so get 2oz in it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Is this a modern 10g? If so get 2oz in it!Steel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Is this a modern 10g? If so get 2oz in it! He won't be getting 2oz in, if it's steel shot. Hia fellas, Iv just made my first batch of cartridge, I got loading gear at lowther show on sunday(clay and game) iv pattern tested them this morning.. There are 182 shot per shell(no 2) at 50 yrd 1/4 choke 68 in 30" circle (37 %) and 1/2choke ..56 (30.7%).. Can I improve on this? If so how do I go about it.. I'm using 41grn cx2000 +150 , multi metal wad , 42 grm no2 steel , felt spacer then crimp.. Cheers A 30% pattern at 50 yards is not going to put much in the bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 182 count seemed low for steel, so I assumed. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Try putting the felt below the shot ..... it may be disrupting the pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Try putting the felt below the shot ..... it may be disrupting the pattern. Yep well spotted , I am not a fan of anything on top of the shot , not sure if that will improve things as much as they need improving though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler23 Posted August 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Aye I see, yes gun fits nice, was getting centre of pattern... Choke is factory I think , powder is maxam ssb 150 .....patterns at 30 yrd 1/4 140 (76.9%)... 1/2 127 (69.7%) on a 48" plate outside of circle was very even spread.. I was happy with pattern at this distance.. Just at 50 yrd it was low. But again was very evenly spread, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler23 Posted August 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Try putting the felt below the shot ..... it may be disrupting the pattern. I'll give this a try, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 I think you'll kill a lot of stuff with that load .... most of what ends up in the bag is shot a lot less than 50 yards, and most of the time, who knows if it was in the middle of the pattern! I'd go with it, and consider aftermarket chokes if you feel yo need the improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 I think you'll kill a lot of stuff with that load .... most of what ends up in the bag is shot a lot less than 50 yards, and most of the time, who knows if it was in the middle of the pattern! I'd go with it, and consider aftermarket chokes if you feel yo need the improvement. I would disagree , surely the whole point of home loading is to get as good a cartridge as possible , not to knock something up that is not great and say " I will go with that " . It would hardly fill me with confidence using a poor pattern at that range . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler23 Posted August 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 To be honest with you, I'd not be shooting at anything 50 yards, it's out of my comfort zone. I'd just like to make the shells the best that I possibly can.. I'll try the felt under shot like you say and see if that alters it much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler23 Posted August 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Iv read on here lads reducing the powder or shot,to improve pattern , is this something I could do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Iv read on here lads reducing the powder or shot,to improve pattern , is this something I could do? What is the quoted velocity of your load? Is your 10 a multi choke? I would be hoping for at least 80% patterns with no.2 at 30 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 If you have no intention on shooting stuff at 50 yards then try loading 3s , high speeds can "blow" patterns but there is no point dropping your powder charge from the recipe , unless you get some loads tested over a chrono or proofed first as their is little point on having a good pattern which does not have the energy to kill what you are shooting at easily. Steel can be rather choke sensitive so could be worth trying the load through a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler23 Posted August 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Velocity (2.5) no 2 ..446.55 maximum..yes it's a multi choke , browning factory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Velocity (2.5) no 2 ..446.55 maximum..yes it's a multi choke , browning factory Do you plan to shoot ducks or geese (or both)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler23 Posted August 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Mainly duck with odd goose, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler23 Posted August 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 What chokes do you fellas recommend to use with browning gold ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Number 3 steel will need lucky strikes to get drt kills unless the range is shorter than warrants a 10 at all say 30 yards. I use 2 for when tje geese are comming low and fast bbb out to 35 or so Please remember non us carry rangefinders amd ping a goose before shooting. Judge on the drt kills and those you have to send the dog quick Patterns? Personally I look at pellet count but pay more attention to an even distrunution free of clumpd and gaps with consistancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
widgeon man Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 I think actually if your chokes are bore mic'd you may well have a more open choke than you think. Are patterns even? Or very blotchy? I would try a 3 slit wad full length evenly cut to try and 'tighten' those loads for that range, but if you only want the load for shooting duck out on creeks etc shooting 30 yard duck its plenty! But I wouldn't bother with 3's in the 10ga, if you want to shoot duck and geese load some 1-1/2oz 1's a great do it all load. I have shot plenty of teal when needed with this load! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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