6.5x55SE Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Not sure this would be true, let's say you purchased legal drugs online from a firm in holland which were illegal in the uk are you saying you would not be prosecuted for trying to import them? But the courier would who had no idea of what was in the parcel. If that's the case then hell lets get ordering and why you are at it why not get a gun from some mate in America or the EU because only the courier/Royal Mail would get into trouble, does not sound logical does it? What's Drugs got to do with Firearms Projectiles! !!!! Anyway argue it with my Firearms Department as I've only stated there Facts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 This has just been sent to me from a member of the firearms advice team at BASC: Whilst customs are happy in that a firearm certificate can be used in lieu of an import licence...... where people wish to order missiles of a calibre authorised by their certificate…… they may only do so via a UK port on entry into the UK with their suitably authorised certificate i.e. correct calibre and quantity. In short the items will be in your luggage. Mail order is prohibited due to the framework of customs and firearms laws with regard to those who possess or handle such items when they reach the UK. Royal Mail are not authorised under Section 5 of the 1968 firearms Act to carry missiles of expanding ammunition which are prohibited items under s5(1A)(g) of the 1968 Act. As such; Royal Mail would be in breach of the law in carrying the item unless specifically authorised by the Secretary of State for the Home Office or Scottish Ministers in accordance with Section 5 of the 1968 Act. If a transfer is effected by an authorised carrier then the transfer would be lawful, however most couriers will only deal dealer to dealer. As such this is one legal way to import...i.e. have the bullets sent to your local dealer providing they are in agreement. The following notice to Importers provides further information on the merchandise in baggage option mentioned above …… Non-commercial imports of firearms, their components and ammunition 17. An import licence is not required for the personal import from outside the EU of firearms covered on a Firearm Certificate, Shotgun Certificate or a British Visitors Permit (BVP) as long as your domestic authority is presented to Customs at import. The notice can be found here - https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/386164/Notice-to-importers-2864-import-licensing-arrangements-firearms-and-ammunition-2015.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 It's you choice but if you are caught importing section 5 ammunition (in the UK expanding bullets are classed as ammunition) and your not using one of a very very few section 5 couriers you will be prosecuted and ignorance is no defence in law weather a European company tells you it is legal or not. You are receiving Sec 5 ammo not IMPORTING The only reason people don't post Sec 5 ammo in this country is the stupid cost. Parcelforce and TNT will both take bookings from any man in the street for any restricted item Legally I can post my rifle direct from me to an RFD using either of them Legally I can have firearms and firearms components sent directly to me (providing they are mine, I still have authority and the relevant courier is used) I have done it Legally I can have ammo posted to me from abroad (so long as the authority to hold is there) Legally i can buy bullets in Canada and walk them out through customs! Just did it! Saying that I would be liable for someone else's failure to adhere to Sec 5 courier authorisation in the UK is no different to you being prosecuted because a vendor sent your new rifle to your local RFD using Hermes! Not your responsibility or liability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) You are receiving Sec 5 ammo not IMPORTING I like the idea of being able to save some money, but why do you not think if you are bringing the ammo in from outside the UK that you are not importing? How are you defining receiving? Have you done this and all been ok? Edited September 8, 2015 by rbrowning2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 If a transfer is effected by an authorised carrier then the transfer would be lawful, however most couriers will only deal dealer to dealer. As such this is one legal way to import...i.e. have the bullets sent to your local dealer providing they are in agreement. well that statement makes me wonder if any of the rest of it holds water I have a TNT account....am not a dealer.... ANYONE can post a firearm using ParcelFarce........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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