Squinting shot Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 hi all has anyone got one of these my local rfd has one for sale with a 3-9-50 scope and moderator for £399 its the black tactical. Not seen it in the flesh but it looks good and sounds good for the money it would be my 1st pcp. Would it be any good for pest control I have a permission that has feral pigeons that need clearing off and my old crosman is down on power so wanted to upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolly2201 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Hi, not got one myself but a mate has, I have shot with it and it is quite heavy but deadly accurate . Good value for the money. He also has the Brocock Specialist but always chooses the Hatsan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squinting shot Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 thanks bolly2201 that's sounding good then if he chooses over the brocock I had a couple of brocock revolvers before they were banned and they was good quality. Seems like a good deal. How hard is it to charge with the bottle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 As stated does feel a bit heavy, but mine puts pellet inside pellet at 20yds. Very easy to fill,but I did get pressy last year, a new bottle.. Knocks rats over stone dead, well pleased with mine.. Fixed it up with recordable night vision,Really pleased with it all.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol p Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 I've just sold one of these on an airgun site for £245 inc scope ,bipod , sling and bag. It was a perfectly good PCP that gave 175 shots per fill and made a big mess of the rat and pigeon population in Essex. These are an easily overlooked air rifle when it comes to value for money, they maybe a little rough around the edges but are more that capable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squinting shot Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 all sounds promising thanks for all the input will have to save up a bit more for the divers bottle. happy shooting to you all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Cheap for a reason-get a used S410 for the same money and look after it-it will out perform you all day long and, as long as you don't mess with it, you should get back pretty much what you paid for it if you were ever daft enough to sell it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squinting shot Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 well I am in 2 minds between the hatsan or the aa s410 are they both 12ftlb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 I would say that the vast majority of PCP's are close to 12ft/lb but you need to remember that 200ft/lb wont kill anything if you don't hit it-sub 12ft/lb Airgun hunting is as much about placing your shot in the right place as it is about delivering sufficient killing power so accuracy and field craft are essential. I have nothing against the Turkish Delights that are available and I am glad that many people find their way into the PCP world because of the value that these guns offer-but the S410 is simply better built, of better parts and of a far better pedigree than anything that Ali can knock up in Istanbul. If you have cash then the world is your Oyster-try as many guns as you can and read as many reviews as possible-ignore the vast majority of Magazine reviews because they are only interested primarily in revenue and not the truth. Don't buy a particular gun just because your local dealer has one in stock and accept that you might have to travel to find the gun of your dreams-if I were you I would be looking at...S410,S200 with multi adaptor, Walther RM8, HW100 ( but not without a warranty) or similar-there are hundreds on various Websites and tracking down your gun is part of the fun......enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squinting shot Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 is the s200 any good for pest control or is it just a target air rifle I have seen one for £370 with a scope moderator and 10 shot mag conversion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Not shot one, but handled one. Feels nice and ergonomic. Don't recall any negative comments, which says something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 S200 is simply a giant killer in the airgun world-but shot count of around 40 puts many people off-you might like to consider however that when I go shooting Squirrels I only carry 9 pellets in the mag and 25 in a small plastic clip-never run out to date. Where about's are you-you might find someone local on this forum who would let you try their guns or know of a club nearby where most members are more than happy to let new shooters try their guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squinting shot Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 yeah when I go round my small permission I get 8 to 10 feral pigeons then they get spooked so shot counts not really a issue its just what pcp is up for the job AT44, S510, S200 like the look of the S200 and it gets good reviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzashadow Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 i had an at44 in .22 and sold it for a s410 in 1.77 and regret every minute lucky for me my some still has a at44 so i can still use one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squinting shot Posted January 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 i had an at44 in .22 and sold it for a s410 in 1.77 and regret every minute lucky for me my some still has a at44 so i can still use one ok thanks was talking to my rfd and the AT44 seems to be a good seller and apparently had no returns. Might take a punt on one. Going to have a look in person to get a feel for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) The AT is a nice gun, also sold as a Webley Raider, just more expensive label on same gun. If you are in the North of the country Kirklees Guns is worth a look for a Hatsan 4 rifle or carbine at £299, the Galatian is a very very nice gun! Just be prepared to deping your Hatsan! Very easily done, just unscrew the cylinder from the gun, using the bleed tool (supplied with the gun) remove all the air from the cylinder, unscrew the valve end, you need a 13mm spanner on an AT44, 17mm on a Galatian, get a bottle brush and remove all but a couple of inches of the handle and bend the end of the wire over to make a hook, put this about a third of the way up the cylinder, refit the valve and refill to about 150 bar off the gun, check for leaks and if none refit cylinder. Refill to 190 bar. Gun will now make less noise from the action when firing. Edited January 18, 2016 by secretagentmole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyshooter Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 The Hatsan range of airguns are great value for the price i have several in my armoury , the AT44-10 .177 tactical is a fine accurate airgun certainly as accurate as my HW100,, do not be put off by negative views of some people these airguns are very good IMHO., and i shoot all makes of airguns. atb brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airarms Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Agree with bruno22rf .airarms .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I had a AT44 in .177 and loved it. It was a tad on the heavy side, but was nice to shoot. I have also shot a AA S410 and If It was me, If I found a decent bargain 2nd hand S410 for the same price as a new Hatsan AT44 I'd go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzashadow Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I disagree with the AA s410 being better I think the bolt action is more awkward to operate than the side lever on the at44 just put a Weihrauch silencer on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squinting shot Posted January 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 need to get to local RFD to have ago I disagree with the AA s410 being better I think the bolt action is more awkward to operate than the side lever on the at44 just put a Weihrauch silencer on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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