leon Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 I am thinking of having a lurcher but not sure where to start, the dpg wants to have plenty of sight hound in him but be good for both fox and rabbit to but I am not sure if this is possible? Any help or a shove in the right direction would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 It's possible leon .. but you aint going to be able to eat the rabbit if you want a fox dog.. For for you want a BullX .. for rabbit you want a collie X or even a whippet or a whipX , your going to have to decide which way you want to go . Either a fox slayer or a rabbit catcher .. all the best yis yp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon Posted February 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 I thought it was a bit much YP but needed someone who knows more about it to confirm it. Have to be a foxer then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 BULL x ... BULL X BULLX BULLX BULLX !!!!!!! you get the picture ? all the best yis yp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon Posted February 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 So what you saying YP bullx? <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vimm Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Hi fleon most lurchers will do Fox and Rabbit, Hare and Deer,lol. But for a Fox specialist you want to be looking at a Wheaton cross or Bull cross. The first cross`s in both of these breeds are ideal Digging mans dogs. Both types will be quite heavly built with a large infusion of Terrier blood in there make up they will be quite game. Ideal for drawing quarry but quite able to take rabbits. Hare`s a possability also Deer. If you want to hunt Hare or lets say all quarry then go for a 3/4 cross in either breed there you will have speed and gameness but it will be at a price. Belive me. Or you could go for a pup out of a tried and tested Collie line but again i would go for a 3/4 its more versatile if you know what i mean. Oh and forget Hancocks,lmao. good luck fleon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon Posted February 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Thanks for the advice Vlimm. I have been to look at some that are bull/collie but the parents seem a little big about 26>28".. would you worry about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 I saw a pit bull cross in action one day, it was only 13 months old and it was deadly on foxes. it wasn't mine though, i consider lurchers a liability incase it turned on a child. the one that i saw that day went for the terrier as it came out of the hole (the terrier was black so it can't have mistaken it for a fox), it was only good luck that the handler got it of the terrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 I have seen a lab/roedishian ridgebackX, lovely looking and has a very nice temperement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vimm Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 I had to hold myself back here ollie from rearing up.. As for dogs being a liability with children then i would say YES. All dogs. Not just certain types. A working Lurcher should be broken to terriers, ferrets and all live stock and if they aint then its the owners fault end of story. The Bull type Collie cross fleon would be a Lurcher x Lurcher mating. Or in other words a Worker X Worker. Often two good working dogs mated together to produce tried and tested stock, a good way in my opinion. Fleon forget the colour of the dog or the coat type as in rough or smooth just choose from a tried and tested litter. As for size in a lurcher x lurcher mating they could well be as little as 21 or as big as 28 obviously dogs will be bigger than the bitchs. But a dog standing between 26/28 would not be a problem for me. You are going to need power fleon for those fox and Roe mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Thats a very good piccy Vimm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 I had to hold myself back here ollie from rearing up..As for dogs being a liability with children then i would say YES. All dogs. Not just certain types. A working Lurcher should be broken to terriers, ferrets and all live stock and if they aint then its the owners fault end of story. Hey don't get bitchy with me, sorry if i offended i was just giving my opinion which i thought this forum was all about and I told you it wasn't my dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiercel Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Vimm your hankie dog is doing quite well for himself. Bringing home puss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Vimm: Nice dog! Would you mind slipping him into TC,s luggage when he comes over for me......plllleeeaaaassssseeee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Can I go in TC's luggage too!!!!!! I would love to go to canada, do a bit of bear shooting, the odd moose, and maby throw some trout in too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Ollie I feel you are wrong about not trusting a lurcher with kids . Mine loves em , but he can't eat a whole one ! BANGING YOUR HEAD AGAINST A WALL BURNS 150CAL. AN HOUR ! all the best yis yp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 YP :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiercel Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Ollie you are quite right about you being able to express your opinion on this site, but for that opinion to be worth anything, it has to be informed. If you make a off the top of my head,heard it in the pub, opinion, dont be suprised if people who know better take you to task over it. In future i would stick to posting about things you know about. Not conjecture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 TC Thats what i wanted to say .. very well written mate ! all the best yis yp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermin Dropper Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 BANGING YOUR HEAD AGAINST A WALL BURNS 150CAL. AN HOUR ! :yp: YP, Looking at the photos of last weekend, you must have burnt off about 9000 cals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon Posted February 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 What about pointing Vlimm a couple I have seen have pointed to is this a certain breed or will they all do it? Also what would you expect to pay for a decent dog? just so I have an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 If you make a off the top of my head,heard it in the pub, opinion, dont be suprised if people who know better take you to task over it. . It wasn't of the top of the head, heard it in the pub opinion. If you read my 1st post you'll find I was talking from an experience I had. I know it wasn't the brightest post but this is how we learn from things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 I saw a pit bull cross in action one day, it was only 13 months old and it was deadly on foxes. it wasn't mine though, i consider lurchers a liability incase it turned on a child. the one that i saw that day went for the terrier as it came out of the hole (the terrier was black so it can't have mistaken it for a fox), it was only good luck that the handler got it of the terrier. Ollie going to pull ye up fella ... Where in your post does it say that lurchers are untrustworthy with kids ? from a 1st hand experience you have had ? all the best yis yp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vimm Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Right first of all if i packed my young dog off to anyone i would bet that he would be back within days and not on his own accord,lol. As for old puss that was a road kill i found and i thought i would take a few pictures to make out that he had caught it Fleon i aint too sure what you mean by pointing? But anyway nearly all dogs will "point" (mark) its just geting a dog, well understanding a dog when its telling you there something there. Take this for instance if you walk your new dog he will sniff at hole`s and such like. When he does then stop and net the holes. Yes the ******* lot or gate net it long net it do what ever. Just make sure you catch that Rabbit. Kill the Rabbit and let him smell and play with it. Move on. Every time he stops and sniffs at a hole do exactly the same he will soon learn that there`s play time a head. Now dont do this to a 8 month old dog, well you can if you like but do this when he`s 8 weeks old. Early entering and management is a route to success. But be warned it also CAN in the wrong hands be a definate route to disaster. It realy is up to you fleon how you enter your new pup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 You shot that rabbit on the right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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