Jeremy Corbyn

[Vince Green]

JC doesn't support anyone, he is anti establishment and will speak against the status quo on any platform at any protest meeting by invitation. Beyond that he has never done anything that might resemble having to do work in support of what he says for years.

[panoma1]

Having been elected to power (by the Labour Party) like all left wing, anti everything, class warriors..........I bet JC will ignore all critism, resist all attempts to dethrone him.........and stick in there as tight as a tick!...........but only time will tell?

[grrclark]

Having been elected to power (by the Labour Party) like all left wing, anti everything, class warriors..........I bet JC will ignore all critism, resist all attempts to dethrone him.........and stick in there as tight as a tick!...........but only time will tell?

 

I think that is a racing certainty, isn't it remarkable how quickly one can choose which of their deeply held principles no longer carry such weight when applied to ones self

[henry d]

Intersting philosophical argument around the definition of a word and how it should be applied in context. Like all the best philosophical arguments I think that both sides are both right & wrong..... [snipped for brevit only]......The 'principled' JC is showing himself as being so easily bought and sold at the market stall of political popularity, just like the rest of them.

 

What you say is basically true, however it is a sad state of affairs when people who have a polarised view use such tactics to create enmity against a person and to build up a straw man to tilt at. Give him time to actually do things/say things and then criticise/praise as necessary when we can actually see what he has or has not done.

Take for instance Justin Welby and Paralympic superstar, Dame Tanni Grey Thompson, when they managed to attack and close down the lucrative side of Wonga. Was there anything on here about it? How did the eagle eyed and sharply political population of Pigeon Watch not pick up on it? I have no idea and to offer an opinion would be wrong, perhaps a few of the more politically minded would care to offer a view on why this should be so?

[panoma1]

When someone is elected/placed in position of responsibility and receives renumeration/benefits for doing that job, they are expected to do that job..............it is only news when (and why) they don't!

[Gordon R]

Take for instance Justin Welby and Paralympic superstar, Dame Tanni Grey Thompson, when they managed to attack and close down the lucrative side of Wonga. Was there anything on here about it? How did the eagle eyed and sharply political population of Pigeon Watch not pick up on it? I have no idea and to offer an opinion would be wrong, perhaps a few of the more politically minded would care to offer a view on why this should be so?

 

 

 

I don't recall you posting on this matter. I would appreciate a link.

[grrclark]

 

What you say is basically true, however it is a sad state of affairs when people who have a polarised view use such tactics to create enmity against a person and to build up a straw man to tilt at. Give him time to actually do things/say things and then criticise/praise as necessary when we can actually see what he has or has not done.

Take for instance Justin Welby and Paralympic superstar, Dame Tanni Grey Thompson, when they managed to attack and close down the lucrative side of Wonga. Was there anything on here about it? How did the eagle eyed and sharply political population of Pigeon Watch not pick up on it? I have no idea and to offer an opinion would be wrong, perhaps a few of the more politically minded would care to offer a view on why this should be so?

 

Another interesting philosophical debate and a number of good points.

 

I agree that it is a sad state of affairs when people attack what is almost a polarised caricature of an individual and not really consider the substance of what is promised and subsequently delivered, but that is the nature of our politics and I would contest that is the saddest thing. Our political considerations are now largely a popularity contest and lack substance or critical inspection and that regime is promoted by the politicians and their strategists. Should we shed any tears for people who choose to play in that arena that find themselves being judged by the same shallow measures that they employ to win a seat?

[henry d]

 

 

I don't recall you posting on this matter. I would appreciate a link.

 

I didn`t write about it on here, I wrote a paper on usuary at college

 

 

Another interesting philosophical debate and a number of good points.

 

I agree that it is a sad state of affairs when people attack what is almost a polarised caricature of an individual and not really consider the substance of what is promised and subsequently delivered, but that is the nature of our politics and I would contest that is the saddest thing. Our political considerations are now largely a popularity contest and lack substance or critical inspection and that regime is promoted by the politicians and their strategists. Should we shed any tears for people who choose to play in that arena that find themselves being judged by the same shallow measures that they employ to win a seat?

 

Very true, very sad...how do (can) we change it?

[grrclark]

 

Very true, very sad...how do (can) we change it?

i think if each of us who care enough try to make a difference amongst those we interact with and hope that it propogates that is perhaps as much as we could individually hope to achieve.

 

Either that or we get a high powered media job