EvoCars Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Hi, just wondered if anyone else has had problems with escorts miss fireing, my guns only 6 months old, only ever had small loads in it, about 300 to 400 carts, never wet or dirty always cleaned /oiled ect, and untill very recently has been completly perfect, never missed a beat, i was shooting clays at brockton 2 weeks ago, had a missfire, didnt think much about it, stuck another cart in and carried on and it worked fine, that was on eley carts, then last week, i had 2 missfires in my first 3 or 4 shots on pro comps, looked like the pin wasnt hitting hard enough, looked a bit of a **** to be fare :unsure: , had to use my friends berretta ou for the rest of the clays, and that didnt miss fire on the rest of my carts, when i got home a stuck about 10 or so ramdom carts through my gun, and it was fine,looked like it was hitting the carts fine, so i dont know what it is, but ive completly lost faith in the gun, anyone got any ideas what it could be, dont fancy having to run and swap guns half way a through a peg again this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 6 months old get it back to the shop, have it checked out properly, it may be a simple thing like crud behind the pin though, have you removed and cleaned the bolt assembly recently, try that first but go no further in stripping down, you may affect the warrenty Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoCars Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 completly clean,I stripped it down, as the manual says, no crud/dirt anywhere, bolt/fireing pin ect look perfect, and oiled, cant understand why it does it sometimes and not others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoCars Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 heres a pic of a cart fired since Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonww Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 had mine three weeks and yes it does it with mine too, three misses at the clay club and a few in the field and thats when its most anoying when your shooting crows and "click" DAMN, mmmmmmmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-peter Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Hi, just wondered if anyone else has had problems with escorts miss fireing, my guns only 6 months old, only ever had small loads in it, about 300 to 400 carts, never wet or dirty always cleaned /oiled ect, and untill very recently has been completly perfect, never missed a beat, i was shooting clays at brockton 2 weeks ago, had a missfire, didnt think much about it, stuck another cart in and carried on and it worked fine, that was on eley carts, then last week, i had 2 missfires in my first 3 or 4 shots on pro comps, looked like the pin wasnt hitting hard enough, looked a bit of a **** to be fare :unsure: , had to use my friends berretta ou for the rest of the clays, and that didnt miss fire on the rest of my carts, when i got home a stuck about 10 or so ramdom carts through my gun, and it was fine,looked like it was hitting the carts fine, so i dont know what it is, but ive completly lost faith in the gun, anyone got any ideas what it could be, dont fancy having to run and swap guns half way a through a peg again this week just another escort I'm afraid. you either get a reasonable one or a complete pig. I have had 2. I bought no 1 second hand not very old. after 400 shots the hammer snapped off. had it replaced three weeks later i shot a 50 bird clay saturday got home and did a quick clean, went out sunday put 25 shell through the connecting rod broke in half. gun no 2 bought brand new from swillington guns. missed recycling from day 1, after less than 500 shots it stopped recycling altogether. thats when I went on to beretta's now I am sooooo happy. I should have bought one in the first place. I have had a franchi. fell in bits a browning. not bad but too heavy a remmington, 1100 not all that good but better than most gas opp's a new benelli, finicky recycling unless you use 36 gramms a winchester, **** hard to clean unreliable a new fabarm eurolion, looks good BUT. THERE IS ONLY ONE SEMI BERETTA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoCars Posted May 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 just strange how mines been perfect untill last week or so, always cycles, even with odd carts ect, just this bloody recent miss fire thats the prob, it seems perfect inside, so i dont know what could be done to sort it, should I try and get my money back??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 had one for e week. it did the same. back to the shop. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Geez Peter...you a bit heavy handed!! :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 i had 3 missfires with my escort yesterday :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly87 Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 yep mine does the same!!! Very very annoying when you pull the trigger on a pigeon from the hind and all you hear is a click!! :unsure: There has been some words said to that gun that I wouldn’t want to repeat but then you get what you pay for really, o yer and if any one wants to buy a escort im sure i can give you a gd deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-peter Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Geez Peter...you a bit heavy handed!! :unsure: youv'e gotta tell it as you find it ol I think the ones i bought where made on a monday. serious though. I have found all the auto's i have owned, have had problems, the manufacturers must know about these things why dont they do summat about them, the remmie 1100 i had was the best gun I have ever used, (for me), but after 100 shots, it could have done with a soak in a bath of degreaser, to remove all the ****. it was also very barrel heavy. beretta don't have a problem with ****, it all or, most of it goes forward. add to this the fact they all handle well. its why I like em the other manufacturers could come up with something similar. but they all seem to be stuck in a rut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 heres a pic of a cart fired since That is not a gun problem if the primer has been struck that hard. I would say it is a duff box of shells. It can happen from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Peter - I know where your coming from but unfortunatly Berratta's don't suit everyone...or their pocket! Last one I used I couldn't hit a thing, but my escort I can't miss with! I'm having a go with my brother's 303 tommorow - we'll see if anything has changed! Martin - Good point, maybe he needs to look at where/how he is storing his ammo. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoCars Posted May 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 the pro coms where brand new, only purchased the day before, the eleys from the week before were from the shoot, kept in their shed, so they most prob had got damp ,the carts do look like they are hit hard,as said above, but the ones that missed didnt, strange, went out last night for a test and stuck 50 or so through the gun and it was perfect, was firing as fast as i could pull the trigger, over and over again, so maybe it was just an iffy box of pro comps, im going to try it out tonight on the clays again and see how it performs on another make of carts, cheers lads for the advise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 so maybe it was just an iffy box of pro comps no, it will do it again. sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoCars Posted May 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 you must of really hated your escort mate :unsure: , but mines been ok till now, and its my first and only gun, and I do like it, got to atleast give it one more try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Love my escort, no probs and hit everything I point it at! :unsure: If that doesn't define a good gun I don't know what does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy22 Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 heres a pic of a cart fired since Firing pin strike looks a bit off-centre. Wonder if it would be enough to cause a problem? Sandy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 had a few problems with some carts (game bore clear pigeon) not ejecting fast enough and causing a jam, stripped it down monday inc, taking trigger out (via 2X pins) full of **** in trigger recess, clean with compressed air, oiled all parts good check over, now works fine except on game bore clear pigeon :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoCars Posted May 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 heres a pic of a cart fired since Firing pin strike looks a bit off-centre. Wonder if it would be enough to cause a problem? Sandy. its always been like that, even when closed tho the bolt seems to have very slight movement in it, spose thats the cause for it not being centre'ed 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 you must of really hated your escort mate it started acting up from day one,so stripped and cleaned it, day two was no better. but tied it for a week then it whent back. there is better second user guns out there for the same money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-peter Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 just strange how mines been perfect untill last week or so, always cycles, even with odd carts ect, just this bloody recent miss fire thats the prob, it seems perfect inside, so i dont know what could be done to sort it, should I try and get my money back??? just a little addition did you buy it new or s/h reason I ask the older escorts had a castellated nut on the piston end wich used to come loose, when this happened the breech didn't come right forward causing the hammer to foul on a metal guard on the base of the breech block at the rear. easily cured by tightening this nut to full. but they worked loose again, locktight no use due to temperature, the later escorts didn't have this nut. might be worth a look, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoCars Posted May 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 it was brand new end of last year, minsterley ordered it in for me so prob the later version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-peter Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 it was brand new end of last year, minsterley ordered it in for me so prob the later version check if the piston has a castellated nut or a plain round retainer. it could be the problem they changed design towards the end of last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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