Hamster Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 I've e-mailed Eley who have so far not responded about the new silver cased version of the Superbs being noticeably punchy to the point I wouldn't shoot them. Has anyone else noticed this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 I've e-mailed Eley who have so far not responded about the new silver cased version of the Superbs being noticeably punchy to the point I wouldn't shoot them. Has anyone else noticed this ? I was talking to Stevo about the superbs the other day as I have been shooting the clear cased ones as had he but he has stopped using the new silver ones as they were much dirtier . IIRC someone told him from eley that they were just a cosmetic change but on opening one up he found they were completely different . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landyboy Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) I've shot the new ones in a fibre wad, good kills bit punchy but nothing excessive Edited May 27, 2016 by landyboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 No difference for me ... I did think the clear case ones were a but punchy too .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 nothing superb about them anymore try something else.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 I mixed 1/2 and 1/2 old v new on a round of skeet today. 25 straight ..... didn't notice any difference ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 ok chaps , make your own minds up the two shells in question .............. old in clear case , new in silver case https://www.dropbox.com/s/bt7pto431j07trq/Photo%2028-05-2016%2C%2018%2012%2028.jpg?dl=0 primers are different , old ( red ) new ( white ) https://www.dropbox.com/s/mvljngs9u413mz5/Photo%2028-05-2016%2C%2018%2020%2026.jpg?dl=0 wads are very slightly different in design , your notice on the one on right ( new one ) the bottom hole is not square like the old one its a triangle ( photo doesn't pick it up too well but its definitely a triangle ) https://www.dropbox.com/s/n9zn5o92dtnfgvs/Photo%2028-05-2016%2C%2018%2021%2028.jpg?dl=0 wads are about 3mm different in length ( old on left new on right ) powder charge is 20 grains on old one https://www.dropbox.com/s/2koexe30xrvcrgb/Photo%2028-05-2016%2C%2018%2030%2008.jpg?dl=0 powder charge is 22 grains on new one https://www.dropbox.com/s/78h5g6am39rqyha/Photo%2028-05-2016%2C%2018%2028%2059.jpg?dl=0 powders are a slightly different shade ( photo doesn't pick it up very well ) power on left ( old one ) is slightly more course than the new on the right https://www.dropbox.com/s/gffx77d9zizy98u/Photo%2028-05-2016%2C%2018%2024%2033.jpg?dl=0 so what do you rekon ?? I can tell you the new ones foul my barrels with plastic like you would not believe , the old ones , I could put 200 shells through the gun and barrels would be mint !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted May 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 ok chaps , make your own minds up the two shells in question .............. old in clear case , new in silver case https://www.dropbox.com/s/bt7pto431j07trq/Photo%2028-05-2016%2C%2018%2012%2028.jpg?dl=0 primers are different , old ( red ) new ( white ) https://www.dropbox.com/s/mvljngs9u413mz5/Photo%2028-05-2016%2C%2018%2020%2026.jpg?dl=0 wads are very slightly different in design , your notice on the one on right ( new one ) the bottom hole is not square like the old one its a triangle ( photo doesn't pick it up too well but its definitely a triangle ) https://www.dropbox.com/s/n9zn5o92dtnfgvs/Photo%2028-05-2016%2C%2018%2021%2028.jpg?dl=0 wads are about 3mm different in length ( old on left new on right ) powder charge is 20 grains on old one https://www.dropbox.com/s/2koexe30xrvcrgb/Photo%2028-05-2016%2C%2018%2030%2008.jpg?dl=0 powder charge is 22 grains on new one https://www.dropbox.com/s/78h5g6am39rqyha/Photo%2028-05-2016%2C%2018%2028%2059.jpg?dl=0 powders are a slightly different shade ( photo doesn't pick it up very well ) power on left ( old one ) is slightly more course than the new on the right https://www.dropbox.com/s/gffx77d9zizy98u/Photo%2028-05-2016%2C%2018%2024%2033.jpg?dl=0 so what do you rekon ?? I can tell you the new ones foul my barrels with plastic like you would not believe , the old ones , I could put 200 shells through the gun and barrels would be mint !! Thanks for taking the trouble to do this, I had intended to myself but I have no means of measuring powders so accurately. I suspected the powder was the main difference for the kick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted May 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) I mixed 1/2 and 1/2 old v new on a round of skeet today. 25 straight ..... didn't notice any difference ..... The only reliable means of detecting differences in recoil is to shoot a stand with a pocketful of a shell you're familiar with ( kind of a control sample ), you then insert a couple of new ones in and any perceivable difference will be apparent. This is what I did with Eley Olympic Blue's and old style Superbs and the kick was noticeable, in fact 2 friends accompanying me for the exercise maintained they could see the difference in my body jolt/movements. Edited May 28, 2016 by Hamster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Wonder why manufacturers insist on knacking up a good cartridge. They take a cartridge known for being smooth to shoot consistent and pattern well, to change it into something thumpy dirty and not nice to shoot. Gamebore are going the other way their Kent Velicities were noted for having a kick but were quick and hit hard, now they're more akin to Hulls comp x. Old adage of find cart you like and stick to it don't work when they cock it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I've been advised by my supplier that the Eley rep has informed them that the first batch of the new Superbs did have a different powder and that they have now gone back to the original recipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I stopped buying cartridges with Eley on em some years ago! I had a very disappointing response to a problem I had with their shells.....seemed to be interested only in covering their derrière than resolving a customer complaint.........I will not buy from them again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 I stopped buying cartridges with Eley on em some years ago! I had a very disappointing response to a problem I had with their shells.....seemed to be interested only in covering their derrière than resolving a customer complaint.........I will not buy from them again! They didn't respond to my e-mails via their web site and FaceBook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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