Ian North Wales Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Hi all, This is my first post so i hope i have covered all the basics but a friend of mine would like to try clay pigeon shooting, Can i take him and let him use my gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetter Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 (edited) Depends on the ground you are going to if they have the I think section 11 exemption and they are ok with it (some places insist on an assessment for new shooters before they let them lose on the ground). Also the person must be able to use a shotgun legally i.e. not be a prohibited person under the firearms act. Edited June 10, 2016 by Zetter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Yes as you are the holder of the shotgun via your cert. On private land the land owner can give them a gun to shoot under his supervision. As said section 11 that clay grounds have gives exemption to some of the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Zetter's answer is correct. Basically, you must ask the ground what their policy is, and abide by that. For example, at one ground I know, they insist on any non-SGC holder having a lesson, and ensuring they fully understand gun safety, before they are allowed to shoot under your supervision. On another ground I know, they are happy for a non-SGC holder to be under your supervision from the start. Both of those grounds have S.11 exemptions in place. If, on the other hand, it's just you and a mate on land that you own, and doing it very informally, then crack on. The only proviso in all cases is whether or not the person is prohibited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian North Wales Posted June 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Fab, thanks Guys.......Love having somewhere to go for advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 On some grounds you may find you have to sign a Form, I think it covers the Ground you are shooting on. As the non certificate holder will have to be identified as using a fire arm,May be for Elf n safety, And who is on the Shoot,, and of course insurance purposes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Section 21 of the firearms act allows non prohibited persons to be in possession of a shotgun whilst they undergo instruction at a shooting ground where a Section 11 (6) issued by the Chief Constable is in place. Some grounds simply require the signing of a Section 21 declaration and then allow a SGC holder to mentor the non SGC holder. Some grounds require a basic lesson to be taken by the non SGC holder with one of the grounds coaching staff prior to being allowed to shoot at the ground. Our current policy at Rixton & Astley Shooting Club is currently the former; however, having witnessed some shocking DIY first shotgun lessons at the ground recently I'm afraid that the latter will have to be implemented very soon. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Section 21 of the firearms act allows non prohibited persons to be in possession of a shotgun whilst they undergo instruction at a shooting ground where a Section 11 (6) issued by the Chief Constable is in place. Some grounds simply require the signing of a Section 21 declaration and then allow a SGC holder to mentor the non SGC holder. Some grounds require a basic lesson to be taken by the non SGC holder with one of the grounds coaching staff prior to being allowed to shoot at the ground. Our current policy at Rixton & Astley Shooting Club is currently the former; however, having witnessed some shocking DIY first shotgun lessons at the ground recently I'm afraid that the latter will have to be implemented very soon. webber Probably sooner than later, John. Just the simple task of taking a gun from and returning it to a gunslip, tells me if I need take cover or not ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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