Jbob Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 So last week i finally completed and moved. Hoorah!! Got my safe bolted in asap and sent my licence back to Dev and Corn police for an address change. All good and above board. So Im sat at work this morning and the phone goes. Its Dev and Corn police regarding my address change. It now appears that as I have less than 5 guns they will not inspect the installed guns safe but ask a few questions over the phone e.g where have you installed it? what is it attached to? is it the same safe as you had in your last property? Im not one to complain but that is cost cutting and under resourcing taken to a new level. They only have my word that the safe is bolted to a masonry wall in the location I told them it is. Luckily my conscience is clear as I have installed it properly, seeing as I was expecting an inspection and for an FEO to try and at least see if they could move it. Anyone else had this or is it something new? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 I don`t see what your problem is? You`ve obviously held a license for some time and you`re regarded as being a trustworthy person simply by that fact. Why waste time and money visiting you when that same officer could be out looking at a safe at a new applicant's house? It seems remarkably sensible to me. If you don`t follow procedure and attach the safe to the wall then should anything unfortunate happen it's your head that will be on the block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbob Posted September 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Very true DM. Think I had it in my mind that an inspection was part and parcel of the whole thing and was a bit taken back when they now do the change of details over the phone. Time and procedures change and evolve I guess. One good thing about it is that I dont have to knock of early from work to meet an FEO at my new house and show them the safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 One less visit from the cops has to be a good thing. I did my SGC renewal earlier this year and it just arrived in the post a day before the old one expired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just be happy you`re not in S.Yorks. my mate sent off his license for an address change and it took about 6 months before it was returned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Once you have proven your a suitable person to hold firearms, why should you need to renew your FAC/SGC at all? the police know all about you and have immediate access to criminal records, and now access to your medical history via your GP.....any problems flagged from any source and they can act and if neccesary, pull your certification immediately, The responsibility to keep guns safe/secure is up to the certificate holder, the chief officer of police has to be satisfied you have/are doing so, if you make a declaration regarding the safekeeping of guns and something happens which shows you are not keeping them in line with your declaration....you will have to pay the price!....and that will undoutedly involve revocation! Initial thorough police scrutiny of an application prior to grant, I have no problem with, but I believe the firearms renewal admin process is more to do with an income source, providing jobs and chief officer of police empire building, than for public safety reasons or giving a service! However good or bad (it appears there is no accountability?) to and for which, the Shooting community foots the bill! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbob Posted September 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just be happy you`re not in S.Yorks. my mate sent off his license for an address change and it took about 6 months before it was returned. DM I was only joking with my OH last night that I was glad I bought some cartridges before we moved cos I was expecting the change of address to take 6 months lol. Seams I was wrong. Suppose this way things happen a lot faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 So last week i finally completed and moved. Hoorah!! Got my safe bolted in asap and sent my licence back to Dev and Corn police for an address change. All good and above board. So Im sat at work this morning and the phone goes. Its Dev and Corn police regarding my address change. It now appears that as I have less than 5 guns they will not inspect the installed guns safe but ask a few questions over the phone e.g where have you installed it? what is it attached to? is it the same safe as you had in your last property? Im not one to complain but that is cost cutting and under resourcing taken to a new level. They only have my word that the safe is bolted to a masonry wall in the location I told them it is. Luckily my conscience is clear as I have installed it properly, seeing as I was expecting an inspection and for an FEO to try and at least see if they could move it. Anyone else had this or is it something new? In my experience moving to a different police area will provoke an inspection but a move within a a police area (ie same police force) is less likely with a well established shooter who has held his licence for some time . Remember the home visit is as much or more about confirming your suitability (for which your home can tell a lot about you ) as it is about checking the security arrangements for the four wall s you live in and the way in which your toybox is mounted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbob Posted September 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 .... as it is about checking the security arrangements for the four wall s you live in and the way in which your toybox is mounted This is one of the things though I would have thought an inspection would be for. How do they know the windows and doors of the house I have bought dont have locks? Could have bought a wreck with no security for all they know (they do have locks btw lol). They didnt even ask the question regarding the house security. Surely an inspection would clarify that as much as 'has he bolted the safe to the wall'? My safe has been in 3 address now. All the moves where within Dev and Corn, they inspected an checked what locks where on what external doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 must all to do with costs now and time, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 This is one of the things though I would have thought an inspection would be for. How do they know the windows and doors of the house I have bought dont have locks? Could have bought a wreck with no security for all they know (they do have locks btw lol). They didnt even ask the question regarding the house security. Surely an inspection would clarify that as much as 'has he bolted the safe to the wall'? My safe has been in 3 address now. All the moves where within Dev and Corn, they inspected an checked what locks where on what external doors. They will have a rough idea of the crime rate in your area. If it`s a low crime rate area they won`t be too worried about your security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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