happy.plinker Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 I recently found a receipt in the attic of a Triumph T5, theres no reg no. or anything else on it, just the make. It's for £205 with extras, his name and Feb 1949 and that's it I'm afraid. I've emailed a chap from the triumph club uk and sounds impossible to trace. Just wondered if there's anyone on here with any ideas. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumphant59 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Have you or any family got old photos of the bike showing the reg number? What dealer supplied the bike, do they still exist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy.plinker Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Ive not come across a photo yet,the garage was John G Nicolson ,junction road Kirkwall, and they've been gone a long time,also not sure if they were a Triumph dealer or just a second hand dealer. I could make a few phone calls to some older lads up here that might remember the bike or the garage,also there's a good vintage club here to contact also. Do you think £205 in 1949 would mean new? Thanks triumphant59, (I take it you like triumphs)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) . Do you think £205 in 1949 would mean new? Almost certainly, and probably included a few extras like a speedometer and pump. The 5T Speed Twin was quoted as being priced at £185 in 1950 and the Tiger 100 at £198. Wouldn't the shipping costs have increased the price in Kirkwall too? Edited September 18, 2016 by amateur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 If you have not got the reg number and the garage shut down many years ago I would not think that you stand a chance in hell of finding it apart from that it was probably scrapped and rusted away many years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butchdickason Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 I would try and find your fathers mates/friends families, perhaps someone may have a picture of your dad with his mates and the bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy.plinker Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Hello amateur,it says on the receipt 'with extras' so you'll be right enough. And yes the shipping would have bumped it again. Must make a few phone calls tonight. I've never been into bikes myself and had a few bad experiences on my cousins one when I was very young basically it was to big for me then, and my father broke a leg long ago on one but not sure what bike it was and would never let me have one because they were dangerous! I think he had a few crashes, but finding this receipt has made me curious hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumphant59 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Ive not come across a photo yet,the garage was John G Nicolson ,junction road Kirkwall, and they've been gone a long time,also not sure if they were a Triumph dealer or just a second hand dealer. I could make a few phone calls to some older lads up here that might remember the bike or the garage,also there's a good vintage club here to contact also. Do you think £205 in 1949 would mean new? Thanks triumphant59, (I take it you like triumphs)? You've got it, triumph cars more than bikes but if anyone's got a trident t160 sat in their shed I'd be interested! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy.plinker Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Haha I'll ask around for a trident.. Just spoke to a bloke who says our library here has a book of number plates of all vehicles sold at that time and names so it might be a lead! will try and get in tomorrow. He also said the triumph dealer was another garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 You've got it, triumph cars more than bikes but if anyone's got a trident t160 sat in their shed I'd be interested! I prefered the t150 and t150v to the t160. t160 was a fat american style the i50s were boxey euro style had an h reg four speed and a m reg five speed went all over europe on them two bikes, met my wife on the four speed in italy married in less than two months. i went to istambull on the four speed alone and got arested for paperwork infractions. I was 18 and let me tell you it was charecter building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 I recently found a receipt in the attic of a Triumph T5, theres no reg no. or anything else on it, just the make. It's for £205 with extras, his name and Feb 1949 and that's it I'm afraid. I've emailed a chap from the triumph club uk and sounds impossible to trace. Just wondered if there's anyone on here with any ideas. Thanks. There will have been a local vehichle licencing authority thhat covered kirkwall, the records may be with swansea but they may not be, they may be in a local libry as you sujest in post 9, this is your only hope and to be honest i think you will be very lucky to find the acctual bike. If your wanting to find the bike to buy it , im not sure this is the case but this can add even more complication and will probably carry a premium in the price if it will be sold that is. I think i would just look round for a similar bike in that case, good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy.plinker Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 There will have been a local vehichle licencing authority thhat covered kirkwall, the records may be with swansea but they may not be, they may be in a local libry as you sujest in post 9, this is your only hope and to be honest i think you will be very lucky to find the acctual bike. If your wanting to find the bike to buy it , im not sure this is the case but this can add even more complication and will probably carry a premium in the price if it will be sold that is. I think i would just look round for a similar bike in that case, good luck. I think I'll be very lucky indeed to find it,and I probably couldn't afford it anyway. It would be nice if it was still on the go and I could tell the owner a bit about it. I might find out tomorrow . Like I said I've never had a bike and can't see me starting now as most lads I know with bikes had them as youngsters so got to grips with them then. The man I spoke to tonight said at that time up here a lot of boys had bikes to go to work and in the 50's scrambling started here so a lot of the bikes got cut and altered and raised etc so a lot of the old classics ended up scrambled to death and dumped. Cheers HP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy.plinker Posted September 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Well I've found the first registration number!!! Was at the library today and they have a beautiful big old ledger and all the reg numbers handwritten in for all the years,just amazing there's records when you think you have nout. And there for Feb 1949 was the local BS number then my fathers name and address, so I'll see if Swansea can find anything,still not overly hopeful though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Triumph owners club might be more useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy.plinker Posted September 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Triumph owners club might be more useful. I tried them thinking the same thing! .... I'll get the forms to Swansea and see what they come up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy.plinker Posted October 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Well I got a reply back from the Dvla , basically they won't do any search for it as its not a valid reason and they have to make a balance between disclosing information and protecting privacy. I asked them if they could find out whether it's still around,been scrapped or any info at all,I didn't want names and addresses ,purely for sentimental purposes only. I guess though they might think I'd wish to find out more if it was still about. At least they gave me my £5 cheque back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 What you need is a friendly police man to run it through there computer at least that would show if it is still alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy.plinker Posted October 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Good idea, I might just be able to do that! Cheers FWD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 you can do an HPI check on the number but there is a fee, that will tell you if its still on the database. If its an unusual number it may be on another vehicle now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Do a free check on the DVLA? Government mot? website https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-status if the reg is still related to that bike it will show up. Edited October 18, 2016 by silver pigeon69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy.plinker Posted October 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I tried the mot and tax check and it said not known or something similar, the hpi might be the same. It'll be dead I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 It may well be existing as a pile of rusty bits in several motorcyclists' sheds or in an auto-jumble awaiting resurrection as part of a pristine restoration (or lash-up}.......as do most old brits. You will never know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy.plinker Posted October 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 It may well be existing as a pile of rusty bits in several motorcyclists' sheds or in an auto-jumble awaiting resurrection as part of a pristine restoration (or lash-up}.......as do most old brits. You will never know Could well be, without frame numbers or other docs I'll never know. Might try a friendly Bobby as suggested. Also was not impressed with the triumph mc club of GB, the bike registrar told me initially I had NO chance of finding anything and there's no way triumph would have sent a bike to Orkney! Cheeky pirk! I told him I've since found the reg plate from the library, and there were lots sent up here after the war,even a triumph dealer set up here inc Honda and lots more! He never replied to that email....I spoke to some older lads who told me all about it,very interesting actually. They said a lot of the old classics were turned into scramblers,cut and altered etc then ending up in a quarry! HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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