Folding shotgun stocks

[Twistedsanity]

Would fitting a folding stock to my mossberg make it illegal?

[Vince Green]

Possibly, its complicated subject with a number of interpretations, so best avoided unless you are sure because opinions differ

Edited March 28, 2017 by Vince Green

[Jaymo]

Measure the barrel from muzzle to breech

Measure action from breech to the pin of the folding stock

Add the two together and see if the total is 40" or more

 

Then ring your FEO and get his opinion and then get it in writing.

 

As Vince say's, opinions do vary from the interpretation of the Firearms act........

 

Personally a folding stock on a 30" barrel looks plain daft, on an 18.5" then we're talking but you need to pop across the channel for one of those ( bizarrely though unless you have it granted on something similar to an FAC , then your not allowed to have it as a smooth bore- hence all the short barrel stuff is rifled)

Edited March 28, 2017 by Jaymo

[Twistedsanity]

Thanks, I was looking at fab defense stuff for my mossberg as they do a shock absorption stock but the only ones in stock in the UK are folding, I'll just avoid it by the sounds of things

[Danger-Mouse]

Thanks, I was looking at fab defense stuff for my mossberg as they do a shock absorption stock but the only ones in stock in the UK are folding, I'll just avoid it by the sounds of things

 

If you're not interested in it folding, only in the shock absorption then if you can find a way of permanently making it locked out that would be perfectly legal. I believe Steve (mossberg-operator) did the same thing with one of his stocks.

[saddler]

Thanks, I was looking at fab defense stuff for my mossberg as they do a shock absorption stock but the only ones in stock in the UK are folding, I'll just avoid it by the sounds of things

You need the Knoxx stock.

They don't fold.

[saddler]

Possibly, its complicated subject with a number of interpretations, so best avoided unless you are sure because opinions differ

For S1/S2 pumps & semis, not as much "interpretation" as "hard of thinking"/"wishful thinking"

 

The legal requirements are down in writing.

[Twistedsanity]

I wasn't particularly interested in a folder it's just what they had in stock, I'll look out for a knoxx stock or any others?

[Vince Green]

They were selling folding stocks for 10/22s on Ebay not that long ago. Its not illegal to sell them apparently but I am willing to bet some unfortunate people bought one in good faith.

[Jaymo]

Vince.

Isn't the receiver on a 10/22 around 8" and so even a 10/22 takedown with its 16" barrel should fit in the 24" min overall length for a sec1 firearm/rifle?

But your of course right in the fact that their sale in not illegal, as is a pistol grip for a shotty as supplied by Midway etc.

 

What with this and the talk about LBR' s, do you not think we in the U.K. Have ended up with some funny old regulations that seem to go against common sense?

[Vince Green]

Vince.

Isn't the receiver on a 10/22 around 8" and so even a 10/22 takedown with its 16" barrel should fit in the 24" min overall length for a sec1 firearm/rifle?

But your of course right in the fact that their sale in not illegal, as is a pistol grip for a shotty as supplied by Midway etc.

 

What with this and the talk about LBR' s, do you not think we in the U.K. Have ended up with some funny old regulations that seem to go against common sense?

The problem is where do you go to get a straight answer? people (ie FEOs ) will tell you things like "folding stocks are illegal" because on the two day course they went on to become an FEO somebody told them that folding stocks are illegal and somehow it becomes written in stone.

 

So many of these things are Chinese Whispers which gather momentum.

 

On the subject of Long barrelled pistols, as far as I know they are not even mentioned in any piece of firearms legislation what so ever. So where and when exactly did all these rules about them come from?