ph5172 Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 A quick question if anyone can help. I was shooting the other week with a good mate using 28g 7.5 olympic trap, after firing about 250 my mate noticed a dull ache in his shoulder ( he is disabled and uses a semi ). I was wondering if he would notice the difference if we moved onto 24g carts - we usually buy 1000 between us - and if we did would it have a great effect on our ability to break clays on DTL and ABT? many thanks simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 250 Cartridges all at one go! No wonder his shoulder ached. I have suffered from recoil for a few years now and cartridges do vary. Hull dtl 300 are quite reasonable to shoot but the Hull Chevron are a bit softer than the 300's. I recently tried some 24gm Express and these were not to bad. Most plaswads seem to kick less than fibre but at the end of the day recoil and it's symptoms will get you. I own a Blaser and it's a great gun but it still kick's me and tommorow I'll be using my 391 because my shoulder is not getting any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08shooter Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 guys i shoot a semi and always would get frowned at on dtl,so much so i dont go anymore.i have an ou too but never shoot it.i think the dtl guys should be more welcoming to any type of gun on the line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 yes if you cant be trusted to put in 2 shells, then its a bad job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oozelumbird Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 24g or 28g, makes very little difference on DTL. 24g might not cycle to well in some semi-autos though. With DTL the clays are close realy, so if you can shoot and can get the lead in the correct place, then that 4g difference makes no difference in the number of broken clays. but will result in a happier shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 When i go to my local clay ground with my AYA i get funny looks, but do i care? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 Olympis trap is shot with 24g so if they can do it so can you. It isn't about how much lead it is where you place it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted June 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 In reply to getting funny looks with a semi, when my mate hobbles up to the plate i think people realise that he just physically could not shoot with a O/U. (he had to px his for his semi) He always uses an auto safe flag when we do sporting. Usually people are more than helpful and dont mind moving plates slower on DTL to allow him time to get to the next and sort himelf out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman1 Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 A quick question if anyone can help. I was shooting the other week with a good mate using 28g 7.5 olympic trap, after firing about 250 my mate noticed a dull ache in his shoulder ( he is disabled and uses a semi ). I was wondering if he would notice the difference if we moved onto 24g carts - we usually buy 1000 between us - and if we did would it have a great effect on our ability to break clays on DTL and ABT? many thanks simon no si, my mate has only got one arm and he shoots 24 gram express at everything, the breaks are as good as anyones with 28 grams, he uses 24,s cos his shoulder is worn out, mind you if the 28 olympic trap you use are the eley ones then they are bumpy, i should know i have shot them for over 5 years, but i shoot a 391 now so its ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 When I first started shooting, one of the most popular guns used for DTL was the Remington 1100 Trapgun. They were about a third of the price of a Browning and so soft to shoot. Hull Cartridge were the importers then and they would install a tapered screw into the gas cylinder so as you could regulate how far the empties were thrown. I asked Gunmark years ago if this could be done to a Beretta auto but they said no, which I thought was a shame. Ian Mullarkey a top shooter in DTL used to shoot a Tekneys but he got fed up about the snide comments regarding flying empties. Perrazi decided to sponser him so he had any easy choice There's always someone who likes to moan but there is no rule banning auto's from DTL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 ignore the DTL snobs..... if your happier using a semi then use it....you pay the same money as them...... and yes ive seen problems in the past at grounds but just ignore the b******* i actually had a friend shooting beside a woman who said " i cant stand here if he is going to use that"!!!! imo she should have left and returned when he had finished...... its all snobbery at the end of the day cos if it really bothered them getting hit by cartridges the they could take a step back till it was their turn to shoot....BAH HUMBUG......im sorry but i have no time for these snobs!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted June 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 We were using eley olympic trap, and yes they do appear to fire slightly lumpy but had no real probs (they were too good a deal to pass up on as they were £90 1000) Looks like i will try 24g next and see how we get on. Only problem is i could do with fibre (i know olympic are plastic!!) as we shoot on mixed grounds and some dont like plastic and would prefer to shoot British as the trade needs all the help it can get so it looks like eley first or trainer or hull fibre unless anyone can recomend anything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 ignore the DTL snobs..... if your happier using a semi then use it....you pay the same money as them...... and yes ive seen problems in the past at grounds but just ignore the b******* i actually had a friend shooting beside a woman who said " i cant stand here if he is going to use that"!!!! imo she should have left and returned when he had finished...... its all snobbery at the end of the day cos if it really bothered them getting hit by cartridges the they could take a step back till it was their turn to shoot....BAH HUMBUG......im sorry but i have no time for these snobs!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rascal Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Looks like i will try 24g next and see how we get on.Only problem is i could do with fibre (i know olympic are plastic!!) as we shoot on mixed grounds and some dont like plastic and would prefer to shoot British as the trade needs all the help it can get so it looks like eley first or trainer or hull fibre unless anyone can recomend anything else? You could try the Gamebore Blue Diamonds, you can get 24 or 28g's in plaswad or fibre. They claim to have a recoil reduction system, how well this really works is anyones guess but they do seem softer on the shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Hull Chevron are the softest shooting fibre load.that I have used. Even less recoil in the plaswad version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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