Public services money

[ordnance]

 

 

Anyway, there should be no additional funding to NI without a resumption of the Stormont Government, Foster should stand aside until it's established what happened to the misspent £500m Cash for Ash debacle; in a properly convened public inquiry. Where impropriety is unearthed the appropriate charges should follow.

 

The case is that the additional money is going to N/I without the resumption of stormount, and like it or not Foster will not stand aside, especially when sinn fein are demanding it.

Edited July 2, 2017 by ordnance

[Penelope]

I believe you were calling people 'muppets' in an earlier post, therefore I think you 'loose'.

 

I am not campaigning for anything just stating facts and I would have thought that someone as educated as you would have noticed that but as my old dad used to say when you resort to insults you loose

[Penelope]

And not a very good one by the looks of it.

 

I think Michael is still at school. His rambling / judgement, plus the ability to read Margaret Thatcher's mind place him as a juvenile.

[Uilleachan]

 

The case is that the additional money is going to N/I without the resumption of stormount, and like it or not Foster will not stand aside, especially when sinn fein are demanding it.

 

 

I'm not too fussed what sinn fein demand, however there's been £500m in public money lost, out of a £750m budget and someone has to account for it, the scheme was administrated by Fosters department and therefore, it wouldn't be appropriate for her to be in office during an inquiry, should there be a resumption of the devolved parliament.

 

I don't have a political axe to grind other than getting to the bottom of what went wrong. Sweeping it under the carpet won't get rid of the whiff of impropriety and in that context, the DUP don't have their troubles to seek.

[Vince Green]

I have given you the facts Thatcher employed McGregor to shut the pits Thatcher put soldiers on the streets of Britain to run horses over British people . Labour didn't employ McGregor Thatcher did all facts . There are no deep mines in Wales fact you don't want to hear facts Thatcher new she was going to shut all but the biggest pits in England when she stock piled coal fact there's a good DVD you should watch it is called the enemy within it will give you more facts

you have been reading all that WRP rubbish haven't you? I can tell from the things you are saying.

 

The decline in the South Wales coalfields started in the 1920s, by the time of the war the number of people employed had already halved. Many of the miners that were displaced came to places like London to work as labourers on the big house building programmes going on in the suburbs. Others went to Australia and the US

 

The 50s and 60s saw a massive decline and stagnation mostly under Labour, neither Wilson nor Callighan did anything to reverse the rot.

 

Lack of investment and the complacency of the Coal Board played a huge part as well but the power of the Unions had grown to the point that they were calling the shots. This was not socialism, this was hard line communist infiltration and they were genuinely, and openly, motivated to destroy the industry and the country.

 

I do genuinely believe they were working only to bring about 'the revolution' predicted in their twisted ideology. You can see their motives in the winter of discontent and the three day week.

 

Scargill, who was only ever an unelected Communist plant in Yorkshire, thought he has enough support to deliver the killer blow and he was wrong. He launched the strike for personal glory but he was too late. He hadn't taken North Sea Gas into account and the ability it gave the government to stretch things out long enough to break the strike.

 

The Welsh Union leaders at the time of the strike hated Scargil with a vengeance apparently, they thought he was a 'four letter word' but they couldn't avoid getting dragged in.

Edited July 3, 2017 by Vince Green

[ordnance]

 

 

I don't have a political axe to grind other than getting to the bottom of what went wrong. Sweeping it under the carpet won't get rid of the whiff of impropriety and in that context, the DUP don't have their troubles to seek.

 

There is a enquiry it will take place no matter if Foster steps aside or not, at the rate they are going i doubt there will be a executive for Foster to stand aside from.

 

Finance Minister Máirtín Ó Muilleoir said the judge would be "unflinching in his pursuit of the truth and scrupulous in his analysis of the evidence".Sir Patrick will be supported by two panel members and, if needed, assessors from outside Northern Ireland.He would begin gathering papers on 1 February, said Mr Ó Muilleoir.By getting to the truth of the RHI scandal, this inquiry team will... go some way to rebuilding the shattered public confidence in the institutions," he said.The inquiry is expected to report its findings within six months.

 

 

[JohnfromUK]

There have been two major problems to the UK coal industry, neither of them directly related to any British government;

 

Firstly, UK coal is relatively expensive to produce - partly because much of it was deep mined, but partly because labour was cheaper overseas (such as Poland). Customers wanted the cheapest fuel (including cola produced electricity) and so it was more economic to import the coal (or to generate electricity, use cheaper fuels).

 

Secondly, the UK has now closed most of the coal fired power stations because they were big CO2 producers - and the UK signed up to the Kyoto Protocol in 1998 (Labour administration) for CO2 reduction leading to the need to close the coal fired power stations.

 

Both of these drivers are effectively 'non party political' as the Kyoto Protocol would have been signed by either UK party, but the demise was hastened by Arthur Scargill and Mick McGahey playing ploitics and trying to bring down elected governments by bully boy tactics - a tactic that should have seen both jailed for a long period.

Edited July 3, 2017 by JohnfromUK

[Vince Green]

Even today there are a few small independent mines in south wales producing coal for the preserved steam railways to run their engines. No other coal is as good.

Historically, both the railways and the canals were built to carry coal into the cities. So important was coal to the development of Industry and the growth of commerce. London would grind to a halt every winter for lack of fuel. Its hard to imagine now how vital it was.

 

The decision to switch electricity generation to Polish coal was a staggeringly bad decision taken by accountants at the Electricity Generating Board. It took no account of the real cost. For years to come because the coal was still there in Wales and Yorkshire. It only had to be dug out and to the UK it was free.

 

You have to wonder how much it played into the politics of McGahey and Scargill to see the money going to the old Communist Poland. It is often said that Scargill received a bung of £1.5 Million from Poland for services rendered. which he trousered. So much for miners solidarity.

Edited July 3, 2017 by Vince Green