Cranfield Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 At the moment in my area I have over a square mile of peas and there are 1000+ pigeons scattered all over it. A couple of years ago I tried for permission to shoot the pigeons, but the farm manager said that he, his brother and a few mates took care of the pigeons. I have only ever seen a couple of blokes with a spaniel walking the ditches in the winter looking for a pheasant. I saw the farmers son yesterday and pointed the birds out to him, he said it all goes through the farm manager and I would need to approach him. When I told him I already had 2 years ago and what his answer was, he replied that his father(late 60's) leaves everything to the manager. It would be easy to sit back and think they deserve to have their crop spoiled, but all I can see is a waste of an opportunity. There is also the fact that this lot has to be harvested one day, there will be well over a thousand around then. I wish I had a pound for every time I have encountered this situation. "I don't particularly want it, but you can't have it" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Had the same experience myself a few times, that kind of set up to make a show when birds are a real problem is the right way. However these type of people are not the sort I would employ -as I know they are prepared to abuse their position as a means to their own end! Regards starlight32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Cranfield it may be worth a letter to the main man, possibly with a photo. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, what do you have to loose?? webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 None so queer as folk! There's a beautiful farm near here, very Suffolk lots of old barns etc that's be unoccupied for years and is now falling down. The owner, big landowner/farmer, simply isn't interested in selling it. Why? no one knows but he's quite content to see it fall down. Madness :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in North Lincs. Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 farmers are so fickle.....................they amount of damage a thousant plus birds can do is phanominal....1 lb per day x 1000...its not worht thinking about!... too many chiefs and not enough indians by the sounds of things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted June 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Cranfield it may be worth a letter to the main man, possibly with a photo. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, what do you have to loose?? webber I thought of this at the beginning, but having spoken to the farm manager already, I would be "going over his head". Even if I got permission from the farmer (unlikely, it seems), I would have a really lousy relationship with the manager, who would be in a position to cause me a lot of problems around the farm. I once told a farm foreman off (putting it mildly :blink: ), for beating his dog with a stick. Within a week the farmer is telling me that there have been gates left open, a broken window in a shed, a vehicle driven on the edge of an onion field and although he wasn't blaming me (a dog trainer and 2 horse riders were also "evicted") , he had decided to only allow his farm workers on his land. Coincidence, ? I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 the problem is is one of trust. You never know who they've let on the land before and had bad experiences with, I've had friends with farms who once they've said yes have then had the guy turn up every day hammering everything in sight then had to say sorry but clear off. Many just don't want to take the chance your best bet is to try and find out where the farm manager drinks and become friendly beforehand. Though possibly they shoot the land occasionally so want to be able to carry on doing so without someone else taking the sport, its often a perk saved for the farm workers and offered to them first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invector Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 On one estate I'm in exactly the opposite position. The farm manager only allows me to shoot, on over 2,000 acres, and the farmworkers can't shoot at all. No other shooting is allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning GTS Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Ive had the same near where i live loads of pigeons ask the farm he says someone already shoots them the trouble is i never hear any gunshots but still loads of birds. Im sure that some farmers run nature reserves for pigeons and corvids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 I would wear him down by atrition until you are such a pain in his side his only release from the torture would be to allow you to shoot. Might take a while though. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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