Artemis Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Looked at prices for flocked decoys on the web their trés ££££, anyone got any experience of them. Also 'Spring Sticks' were advertised surely I could just use a piece of hazel ? Appreciate any comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 If you want them to move, and you do want them to move, then a hazel stick is not the way forward, try getting the metal banding that ties up pallets of bricks and cut them into lengths to fit and that fit the slot. I`m sure there is a topic if you use the search function. You may also get more and better answers if you fill your personal profile and then people will know where you are from( I suspect France/Germany/Holland ??) and will be better able to help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 One of the problems with basic plastic/rubber type decoys, is that they can shine when wet, or on very bright sunny days. This is thought to spook pigeons. Flocked decoys continue to have a "matt" effect, even when wet. I have supplies of both and successfully decoyed pigeons, when flocked decoys were not invented, which I suspect most of the pigeon shooters here also did. It depends how much you buy into the idea that pigeons have got more aware of decoys, in some parts of the country this may well be the case, but in others I'm not so sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 HI, I like Cranfields tip on brick strapping.... if it works for you ...please let me know..... I don't want to hijack your question....so I will start another thread.... I want to know if you can use the plasticote spray to put a matt finish on older plastic decoys....it is £6 for a huge tin in my local art shop.. Malk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Slater Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 I make my own decoys from real birds. Cut out breast, innards, legs etc. and paint inside with Formaldehyde. Prop them up on something in a lifelike fashion and leave to dry for about 4 weeks, they last about 2 years if you're careful with them. Takes about 10 minutes to do one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 I make my own decoys from real birds. Cut out breast, innards, legs etc. and paint inside with Formaldehyde. Prop them up on something in a lifelike fashion and leave to dry for about 4 weeks, they last about 2 years if you're careful with them. Takes about 10 minutes to do one. Where do you get the Formaldehyde from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Slater Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 I make my own decoys from real birds. Cut out breast, innards, legs etc. and paint inside with Formaldehyde. Prop them up on something in a lifelike fashion and leave to dry for about 4 weeks, they last about 2 years if you're careful with them. Takes about 10 minutes to do one. Where do you get the Formaldehyde from? I had some left from years back which I think I got from Boots. Tried to buy some more today but they no longer stock it so if anyone knows of a supplier I'd be grateful too. I wish now that I hadn't used so much up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topgunners Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 I make my own decoys from real birds. Cut out breast, innards, legs etc. and paint inside with Formaldehyde. Prop them up on something in a lifelike fashion and leave to dry for about 4 weeks, they last about 2 years if you're careful with them. Takes about 10 minutes to do one. I did a quick check on forma. WARNING * Formaldehyde is suspected to cause cancer in humans. * Formaldehyde occurs naturally at 0.12 to 0.38 parts per BILLION [ppb]. Sidestream smoke increases this by 0.23 to 0.27 parts per MILLION [ppm] (a 1000+ increase). * Long-term exposure at levels greater than 0.1 ppm appears to be a risk for cancers of the lung, pharynx, buccal cavity, liver, bone, skin, prostate gland, bladder, kidney and eye, leukemia and Hodgkin's disease. * Animal studies showed formaldehyde is an irritant to eyes, nose, throat and lungs, and causes cellular changes in the upper respiratory tract, a decrease in respiratory rate, and adversely affects the liver. * Formaldehyde exposure greater than 0.22 ppm is linked to respiratory symptoms such as cough, phlegm, chronic bronchitis, asthma, shortness of breath and chest colds. * Formaldehyde is known to produce allergic reactions and induction of asthma-like conditions, lightheadedness, dizziness, diminished dexterity, itching eyes, dry and sore throats, disturbed sleep, unusual thirst, and malignant disease in humans. * Human eyes are sensitive to formaldehyde at concentrations of 0.01 ppm, and are irritated by formaldehyde at concentrations of 0.05 to 0.5 ppm. * The main uses of formaldehyde in industry include fertilizer, dyes, disinfectants, germicides, preservatives, and embalming fluid. Just for your reference folks. Dave K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 I make my own decoys from real birds. Cut out breast, innards, legs etc. and paint inside with Formaldehyde. Prop them up on something in a lifelike fashion and leave to dry for about 4 weeks, they last about 2 years if you're careful with them. Takes about 10 minutes to do one. I did a quick check on forma. WARNING * Formaldehyde is suspected to cause cancer in humans. * Formaldehyde occurs naturally at 0.12 to 0.38 parts per BILLION [ppb]. Sidestream smoke increases this by 0.23 to 0.27 parts per MILLION [ppm] (a 1000+ increase). * Long-term exposure at levels greater than 0.1 ppm appears to be a risk for cancers of the lung, pharynx, buccal cavity, liver, bone, skin, prostate gland, bladder, kidney and eye, leukemia and Hodgkin's disease. * Animal studies showed formaldehyde is an irritant to eyes, nose, throat and lungs, and causes cellular changes in the upper respiratory tract, a decrease in respiratory rate, and adversely affects the liver. * Formaldehyde exposure greater than 0.22 ppm is linked to respiratory symptoms such as cough, phlegm, chronic bronchitis, asthma, shortness of breath and chest colds. * Formaldehyde is known to produce allergic reactions and induction of asthma-like conditions, lightheadedness, dizziness, diminished dexterity, itching eyes, dry and sore throats, disturbed sleep, unusual thirst, and malignant disease in humans. * Human eyes are sensitive to formaldehyde at concentrations of 0.01 ppm, and are irritated by formaldehyde at concentrations of 0.05 to 0.5 ppm. * The main uses of formaldehyde in industry include fertilizer, dyes, disinfectants, germicides, preservatives, and embalming fluid. Just for your reference folks. Put me down for a couple of tubs, sound like great gear to have in the workshop Dave K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 so is there a "safe" alternative for Formaldehyde ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Slater Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 I make my own decoys from real birds. Cut out breast, innards, legs etc. and paint inside with Formaldehyde. Prop them up on something in a lifelike fashion and leave to dry for about 4 weeks, they last about 2 years if you're careful with them. Takes about 10 minutes to do one. I did a quick check on forma. WARNING * Formaldehyde is suspected to cause cancer in humans. * Formaldehyde occurs naturally at 0.12 to 0.38 parts per BILLION [ppb]. Sidestream smoke increases this by 0.23 to 0.27 parts per MILLION [ppm] (a 1000+ increase). * Long-term exposure at levels greater than 0.1 ppm appears to be a risk for cancers of the lung, pharynx, buccal cavity, liver, bone, skin, prostate gland, bladder, kidney and eye, leukemia and Hodgkin's disease. * Animal studies showed formaldehyde is an irritant to eyes, nose, throat and lungs, and causes cellular changes in the upper respiratory tract, a decrease in respiratory rate, and adversely affects the liver. * Formaldehyde exposure greater than 0.22 ppm is linked to respiratory symptoms such as cough, phlegm, chronic bronchitis, asthma, shortness of breath and chest colds. * Formaldehyde is known to produce allergic reactions and induction of asthma-like conditions, lightheadedness, dizziness, diminished dexterity, itching eyes, dry and sore throats, disturbed sleep, unusual thirst, and malignant disease in humans. * Human eyes are sensitive to formaldehyde at concentrations of 0.01 ppm, and are irritated by formaldehyde at concentrations of 0.05 to 0.5 ppm. * The main uses of formaldehyde in industry include fertilizer, dyes, disinfectants, germicides, preservatives, and embalming fluid. Just for your reference folks. Dave K Blimey. No wonder Boots don't sell it anymore then. Still the best decoys I've ever used though............................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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