monshussar Posted December 28, 2019 Report Share Posted December 28, 2019 Hi , Ihad some paper cased 12 bore cartridges as a Christmas pressie and took them out on a squirrel control shoot Boxing Day. Bit of a concern as, out of three fired,two lost part of the crimp. I have only ever used plastic cartridges so is this normal ? Also as one piece was up barrel can this cause a safety concern, it was a loose piece easily blown out. Cartridge is Lyvale Paper Case Game, fibre wad 28 gm #6. Gun ....Beretta 682 gold E sporting. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spurs 14 Posted December 28, 2019 Report Share Posted December 28, 2019 Hi ya , never used paper cartridges so couldn’t say if this was normal , but if you have any concerns then why not just stick with the plastic .? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted December 28, 2019 Report Share Posted December 28, 2019 It’s not a problem and happens the modern loading machines don’t seem to like waxed wads so They use unwaxed wads to load in volume this sometimes tears the crimped end the older paper cases are loaded with waxed wads and no problem just checking up the barrel after a shot is good practice and easy to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monshussar Posted December 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2019 Thanks for the replies, Re stick with plastic....they are a present, also I don't want to waste them if this is "normal". If shooting quickly I don't check up barrel after every shot to be honest . This time was just a few shots at squirrel. I have sent to Lyvale but no reply yet because of holiday period . Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted December 28, 2019 Report Share Posted December 28, 2019 I wonder if it’s anything to do with using 65mm paper case cartridges in a modern long chambered gun? Do longer chambered modern guns have different chamber/forcing cone dimensions to older short (65mm) chambered ones?....this could be an explanation? Over the years I have used many, many 2 1/2” paper cased cartridges in an English 2 1/2” chambered gun, and don’t ever recall this happening to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted December 28, 2019 Report Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 minute ago, panoma1 said: I wonder if it’s anything to do with using 65mm paper case cartridges in a modern long chambered gun? Do longer chambered modern guns have different chamber/forcing cone dimensions to older short (65mm) chambered ones?....this could be an explanation? Over the years I have used many, many 2 1/2” paper cased cartridges in an English 2 1/2” chambered gun, and don’t ever recall this happening to me! It’s a recent thing which is why I dissected e few from a new batch and some more from old stock maybe the paper ? I use mainly paper cases in a assortment of chamber lengths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 This is quite normal with modern paper case cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monshussar Posted December 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 4 hours ago, welshwarrior said: This is quite normal with modern paper case cartridges. Cheers welshwarrior, As long as my face and Beretta stay intact 🥴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 Had it happen in the past nothing wrong with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monshussar Posted December 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 48 minutes ago, snow white said: Had it happen in the past nothing wrong with them Cheers snow white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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