henry d Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) Not brewed up for a few years but I am looking for recommendations for double can kits. I am having trouble sourcing my fave, Woodefordes Wherry, and to make it worthwhile I need to be getting 3-4 kits from a single brewshop so it is postage free. I have seen a Belgian beer, dubbel by festival, but if you can recommend a lager (pilsner preferred), a Belgian (not wheat) and an IPA. Possibly a cider too? Many thanks! Edited April 22, 2020 by henry d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooder Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 Festival beer kits are good, I make them all the time but have problems getting them at the moment due to the lock down. Pilgrims Hope is my favorite, also made London Porter, Razorback IPA, Summer Glory, all been good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted April 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 Cheers, I've seen Razorback, will check them all out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 Haven't done kits for a while, but here's some good ones: https://www.home-brew-online.com/beer-kits-c1/brewferm-abdij-dark-abbey-beer-kit-p167 https://www.home-brew-online.com/beer-kits-c1/muntons-gold-continental-pilsner-beer-kit-p116 Don't know if you're an apple fan, but i couldn't brew this quick enough over the last few years https://www.home-brew-online.com/cider-kits-c3/magnum-elderflower-cider-kit-p624 Avoid Geordie kits like the plague - Always taste like rubish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted April 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, Fatcatsplat said: Haven't done kits for a while, but here's some good ones: https://www.home-brew-online.com/beer-kits-c1/brewferm-abdij-dark-abbey-beer-kit-p167 https://www.home-brew-online.com/beer-kits-c1/muntons-gold-continental-pilsner-beer-kit-p116 Don't know if you're an apple fan, but i couldn't brew this quick enough over the last few years https://www.home-brew-online.com/cider-kits-c3/magnum-elderflower-cider-kit-p624 Avoid Geordie kits like the plague - Always taste like rubish Cheers, I tried the muntons a while ago, wasn't too impressed, however I'm prepared to try again. Will check out the abbey and cider, I'm sure that the boss would like that as she enjoys a gin and elderflower tonic. Geordie kits were the mutts back in the 70-80's, however I totally agree, made to a price not a standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted April 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 Well I have been trying to get some but so has the world and his wife! Cheap rubbish, not a problem, decent stuff no chance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marccus Posted April 28, 2020 Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 Any of the Festival ones are good. The Brewferm ones are an acquired taste and strong! I did a few of the Woodefords all of which were ok. I did a Bulldog IPA once and that was really nice but at 7.5% you didn't need a lot. Lol! St Peter's Ruby Red was another good onexalthough when I did it again was as flat as tap water. Happy brewing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marccus Posted April 28, 2020 Report Share Posted April 28, 2020 Oh! Have a look at the Coopers range too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted April 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 Cheers, I would like to get my hands on the Cooper's pilsner, but seems to be sold out everywhere, usually a sign that it's good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonty Posted April 29, 2020 Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 Henry, have you tried the online supplier ‘get er brewed’ ? Link ive used them for all grain brewing supplies and found them really good - I’ve not used them during lockdown so I assume delivery/order processing might be longer than usual. I’ve just had a quick look and they have plenty of kits in stock, including your Wherry. They also have Mangrove Jacks kits in stock - I’ve not used them personally but have heard good things from kit brewers. i hope the stock levels on their website are accurate and I’m not giving you duff info. cheers (hopefully in 14-21 days) jonty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted April 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2020 Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted April 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 16 hours ago, Jonty said: Henry, have you tried the online supplier ‘get er brewed’ ? Just placed an order, they had 2 out of three, but I also ordered a St. Peters IPA and it was a lot easier to navigate than some sites, many thanks for the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonty Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, henry d said: Just placed an order, they had 2 out of three, but I also ordered a St. Peters IPA and it was a lot easier to navigate than some sites, many thanks for the link I’m glad you found at least some of what you were looking for - I think that since lockdown lots of people are brewing for the apocalypse hence low stocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted April 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Jonty said: I’m glad you found at least some of what you were looking for - I think that since lockdown lots of people are brewing for the apocalypse hence low stocks. 🤣 exactly my reasoning! Takes half a day to get a brew on, weeks to ferment and fine down and a weekend to scupper it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonty Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 I like your thinking 👍 for anyone out there who enjoys making beer kits, there’s a great halfway step between kits and all grain brewing called extract brewing which is quite simple and really raises the quality of the beer to another level. The malt extract in a beer kit has already been ‘hopped’ and concentrated, with extract brewing you mix plain malt extract (dried or liquid) with water, boil it up and then add hops and boil for an hour. It does require a large pan or stock pot but for some of you home brewers it might be worth a read up on whilst you’ve got time on your hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted April 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 I would love to try it, however I would then probably want to do it! I stopped short of chasing that rabbit when checking some homebrew sites out, some of those SS brewing vessels look interesting. I also hope to spend more time with a local micro brewery owner, Cullach, as he opened a pub in town which is really quirky. Hopefully he doesn't fold as we had hoped to get him into discussions on starting a pub/church/mum's and toddler centre, and I could learn from him, but that's a different thing altogether. Happy brewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Jonty said: I like your thinking 👍 for anyone out there who enjoys making beer kits, there’s a great halfway step between kits and all grain brewing called extract brewing which is quite simple and really raises the quality of the beer to another level. The malt extract in a beer kit has already been ‘hopped’ and concentrated, with extract brewing you mix plain malt extract (dried or liquid) with water, boil it up and then add hops and boil for an hour. It does require a large pan or stock pot but for some of you home brewers it might be worth a read up on whilst you’ve got time on your hands. That's what i started on - You get very sticky hands though!! Made a really good Brewer's Gold clone. Interesting the amount of people now doing it during lockdown - The price of yeast has over doubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonty Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 49 minutes ago, Fatcatsplat said: That's what i started on - You get very sticky hands though!! Made a really good Brewer's Gold clone. Interesting the amount of people now doing it during lockdown - The price of yeast has over doubled. Me too - with a mango chutney barrel with a Tesco £5 value kettle element - it got a little bit exciting when the water got hot and the barrel started flexing! ive read about the shortages of kit, I was very lucky that I’d just ordered a load of grain and hops to make about 5 brews just before the lockdown happened - more by accident rather than careful planning I must admit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Jonty said: Me too - with a mango chutney barrel with a Tesco £5 value kettle element - it got a little bit exciting when the water got hot and the barrel started flexing! ive read about the shortages of kit, I was very lucky that I’d just ordered a load of grain and hops to make about 5 brews just before the lockdown happened - more by accident rather than careful planning I must admit. Got bundles of fermentables, but nothing to ferment them. Guess i'll just wait for the missus to get another yeast infection!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonty Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, Fatcatsplat said: Got bundles of fermentables, but nothing to ferment them. Guess i'll just wait for the missus to get another yeast infection!! The malt miller has plenty in, especially dried yeast - they also provide an awesome service and the stock levels they show are very accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wb123 Posted April 30, 2020 Report Share Posted April 30, 2020 I put two John Bull cider tins into 25l with 50g of oak chips, mix well and add sugar until the specific gravity predicts 8-8.5%. Leave four to six weeks then strain out the oak and bottle, then leave three to six months. Lovely stuff. The brewferm abdje stuff is brilliant but again don’t touch it until it has had at least six months in the bottle. I have had some delicious results from kits but they always seem to need several months to mature. With cider kits using oak chips seems to speed things up a great deal (without oak the John Bull takes 6 months to be worth drinking, 3 months with the head start the oak gives but it carries on improving). I would also second the recommendation for the elderflower cider magnum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hafod Posted August 22, 2020 Report Share Posted August 22, 2020 One tip dump the yeast that comes in the kit and buy a packet of wilcos Nottingham yeast you won't regret it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 23, 2020 Report Share Posted August 23, 2020 20 hours ago, hafod said: One tip dump the yeast that comes in the kit and buy a packet of wilcos Nottingham yeast you won't regret it What he said. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hafod Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 On 23/08/2020 at 18:49, cookoff013 said: What he said. +1 Same as me cook eh found out the hard way been there done it got the t shirt lol that's why I.ve been doing all grain for the past couple of years now Rob the maltmiller must love me I've revamped my set up over the last 5 years a grainfather and new shiny brewing porn conical.s etc too many hobbies now and not enough time to play with it all lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 believe it or not, my favorite ale is banks bitter. 3kg of normal malt, 20 grams or so of black, and small amounts of hops. its not exciting, it doesnt change the world. but through nearly every allgrain setup should be dirt cheap. a friend did this for about 3p (negative sterility cost ). thats cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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