lurcherboy Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 What did you reckon on it? LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBF Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 pretty nasty stuff. was suprised to see so much footage of the actual fighting. its hard to be against animal cruelty on a forum full of people killing wild animals, but i didnt like seeing those dogs at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08shooter Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 savagery,i cant see why anyone would want to home a pit bull,i think its a fashion statement,i have to have a license for my guns and i believe dangerous dog owners should have a ticket for dogs too as i feel they are more dangerous than my guns. how many youngsters are going to be mauled before people catch on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Agree with you verminshooter29, but don't blame the dog, blame the owner. Not impressed with this dog fighting lark, if the owners want to see a fight, get your shirt off and step in the ring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conor Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 i didnt see the programe, most fighting dogs pit or any other bull type are not people aggressive, how would they be handled otherwise? they are dog aggressive. many people own these dogs wthout any problem. its a few ********* (people) that stuff things up not the dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piebob Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 its hard to be against animal cruelty on a forum full of people killing wild animals Why? I believe that 99.9% of the people on this forum are against animal cruelty. Aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 its hard to be against animal cruelty on a forum full of people killing wild animals Why? I believe that 99.9% of the people on this forum are against animal cruelty. Aren't you? I was wondering about that, too Sounds like the kind of comment an implanted anti would make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russuk Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 its hard to be against animal cruelty on a forum full of people killing wild animals Why? I believe that 99.9% of the people on this forum are against animal cruelty. Aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBF Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 its hard to be against animal cruelty on a forum full of people killing wild animals Why? I believe that 99.9% of the people on this forum are against animal cruelty. Aren't you? well im kind of torn. i can justify killing the rabbits, foxs and pigeon as vermin. although i dont shoot for fox as i cant eat them, so for me personally i leave well alone, but i dont want to push my own views on anyone else as for being an anti anything isnt that allowed then? im anti-government hand outs, is that a bad thing? im also anti-petrol tax etc.. oh and anti small minded-ness.... you know who you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBF Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 its hard to be against animal cruelty on a forum full of people killing wild animals Why? I believe that 99.9% of the people on this forum are against animal cruelty. Aren't you? I was wondering about that, too Sounds like the kind of comment an implanted anti would make that sounds like the kind of comment a paranoid forum user would make... :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 its hard to be against animal cruelty on a forum full of people killing wild animals Why? I believe that 99.9% of the people on this forum are against animal cruelty. Aren't you? I was wondering about that, too Sounds like the kind of comment an implanted anti would make that sounds like the kind of comment a paranoid forum user would make... :o Nothing paranoid about me. I thought it was a peculiar comment. I think it implies that anybody that shoots must get off on torturing animals. I personally have nothing to be paranoid about - I only shoot clays, but I've got nothing against field sports at all, in fact I know that the countryside would be a much worse place without them. I don't know how else your comment could be interpreted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBF Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 its hard to be against animal cruelty on a forum full of people killing wild animals Why? I believe that 99.9% of the people on this forum are against animal cruelty. Aren't you? I was wondering about that, too Sounds like the kind of comment an implanted anti would make that sounds like the kind of comment a paranoid forum user would make... :o Nothing paranoid about me. I thought it was a peculiar comment. I think it implies that anybody that shoots must get off on torturing animals. I personally have nothing to be paranoid about - I only shoot clays, but I've got nothing against field sports at all, in fact I know that the countryside would be a much worse place without them. I don't know how else your comment could be interpreted. well the point i was making if rather badly was that if you cry animal cruelty on this forum you end up becoming flamed for being an anti. the following flaming that seems so very common on this forum by more than a few that ensued just made my point damned if you do, damned if you dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russuk Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 its hard to be against animal cruelty on a forum full of people killing wild animals Why? I believe that 99.9% of the people on this forum are against animal cruelty. Aren't you? I was wondering about that, too Sounds like the kind of comment an implanted anti would make that sounds like the kind of comment a paranoid forum user would make... :o Nothing paranoid about me. I thought it was a peculiar comment. I think it implies that anybody that shoots must get off on torturing animals. I personally have nothing to be paranoid about - I only shoot clays, but I've got nothing against field sports at all, in fact I know that the countryside would be a much worse place without them. I don't know how else your comment could be interpreted. well the point i was making if rather badly was that if you cry animal cruelty on this forum you end up becoming flamed for being an anti. the following flaming that seems so very common on this forum by more than a few that ensued just made my point damned if you do, damned if you dont Any examples of this? I think your quote.. its hard to be against animal cruelty on a forum full of people killing wild animals ...would understandably wind most people up on this forum. Especially those who shoot vermin and game. Maybe it was worded badly, but it sure comes across to me that you identify the shooting of a wild animals to be animal cruelty. Mucho apoligies if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBF Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 well shooting vermin isnt exactly considered as a positive thing for the animals welfare, can anyone deny that shooting animals is cruel? it may be a necessity and it may be sport or it may be for food but at then end of the day its not a nice thing to do..... this is just going to open a whole kettle of boring fish now isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 The respect extended to a quarry (for example a verminous rat) is for a fast dispatch. I do not mourn the passing of the rat or consider it's fast dispatch as cruel. I am perplexed by your logic and a little concerned. This is about dog fighting which is abhorrent. Dog is man's best friend. How you make *any* mental connection between that and shooting vermin is entirely beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I agree,strange comments indeed.I shoot wild animals and feel very justified in doing so as in the main it protects certain other species.i would be mortified if i thought cruelty came into what I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 should never have been shown they cant be right in the head, to see dogs fighting.thats one thing i will not watch.i keep my german sheperd on a lead. when out in the park. but in the fields on the farm let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 well shooting vermin isnt exactly considered as a positive thing for the animals welfare, can anyone deny that shooting animals is cruel? it may be a necessity and it may be sport or it may be for food but at then end of the day its not a nice thing to do you sure your on the right forum. what some scum bag chav does with an air rifle to dog ,cat, or bird is nothing like the shooting that people on here do. A well placed shot is far more humane than electrocuting dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 well shooting vermin isnt exactly considered as a positive thing for the animals welfare, can anyone deny that shooting animals is cruel? it may be a necessity and it may be sport or it may be for food but at then end of the day its not a nice thing to do..... this is just going to open a whole kettle of boring fish now isnt it? I would vigorously deny that shooting an animal is cruel. A well-placed shot is instant and humane and I'm sure is the intention of all sportsmen and keepers alike. Incidentally, I cannot see the logic in differentiating between vermin and game in the "cruelty" stakes. Are you saying it's OK for vermin to suffer a long and lingering death, whilst game should be dispatched quickly? (or not at all, it seems). If I was shooting a rat or a crow, I would afford them as accurate a shot as I could manage, in the same way that I would a deer or grouse. If you abhor "cruelty" to animals, I find your logic odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBF Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Yawn... yet another flaming on this forum..im on a forum full of people that like to shoot animals for a hobby or living. what ever i say will never be agreed with which is why i dont say anything, to be honest i dont even care enough. im just the next of many new forum members that are told they are dumb for not knowing something or for asking about something that may be obvious to the experienced but not the newbie. check here for a prime example of being a group of forum a$$holes http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...showtopic=41033 its not a good way to continue to see this sport hobby promoted. the way to get along on this forum is to clearly be a ****.... the point of a forum is that i can have my own view yet all the posters previous are not content and it seems that its open game to have a dig at me for it. im quite dissapointed with the replys so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Yawn... yet another flaming on this forum..im on a forum full of people that like to shoot animals for a hobby or living. what ever i say will never be agreed with which is why i dont say anything, to be honest i dont even care enough. im just the next of many new forum members that are told they are dumb for not knowing something or for asking about something that may be obvious to the experienced but not the newbie. check here for a prime example of being a group of forum a$$holes http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...showtopic=41033 its not a good way to continue to see this sport hobby promoted. the way to get along on this forum is to clearly be a ****.... the point of a forum is that i can have my own view yet all the posters previous are not content and it seems that its open game to have a dig at me for it. im quite dissapointed with the replys so far Oh well..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 *deleted.not usually rude and abusive* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I'm with fbf . I think your miss-understanding his point . Hope i word this correctly . If i may .. Who says shooting animals is ok but setting a dog on another animal is wrong ? Certain sports are not my cup of tea , but i guess it's what ever floats your boat . But for the record i will state if fbf is an anti , then so am i . all the best yis yp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted September 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Getting back to the thread............ It showed how easy is was to visit Finland and buy a dog. The sellers could gurantee it would pass all veterinary and custom checks and would be in Ireland in no time. LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Yawn... yet another flaming on this forum..im on a forum full of people that like to shoot animals for a hobby or living. Yes, you are on a forum full of people who hunt (to use an adult description). What I can't understand is why you are on it, when you clearly find it so offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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