Shadowchaser Posted November 26, 2020 Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) Does anyone have any experience of these small gauge autos please? I'm considering getting one for ratting and vermin control. Any reliability issues? Perhaps some alternatives in .410? Must be ejector and would prefer manual safe if going for a SBS or O/U. Edited November 26, 2020 by Shadowchaser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowchaser Posted November 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 Thanks for that scampy. I have heard that you need to put some heavy loads through them to break them in. I have a full slab of Eley extra long subsonic shells to get through. I'll follow your advice before firing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted November 26, 2020 Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 I know nothing about the gun itself but I shoot a lot of 410 and have come to rely on Fiocchi 3 inch both new and for the cases and reloading. For what you say you ned the shotgun for you are not going to be shooting a huge amount so I would go for Fiochi and then after a few boxes try running your Eleys through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowchaser Posted November 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 Many thanks for that Walker, I shall do just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted November 26, 2020 Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 I didn't even know these were still about, I thought armsan had recalled them due to reliably issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowchaser Posted November 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2020 28 minutes ago, Farmboy91 said: I didn't even know these were still about, I thought armsan had recalled them due to reliably issues. I saw a new one in my local gun shop in October. I haven't heard about any recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted November 27, 2020 Report Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Shadowchaser said: I saw a new one in my local gun shop in October. I haven't heard about any recall. Ahh ok, to be honest I wanted one myself after seeing the review TGS did but could find little on Google. I'll have a look and see if I can find the article I was reading. Edit, it was on here, if you search for it, it should bring the thread up 👍 Edited November 27, 2020 by Farmboy91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowchaser Posted November 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2020 10 hours ago, Farmboy91 said: Ahh ok, to be honest I wanted one myself after seeing the review TGS did but could find little on Google. I'll have a look and see if I can find the article I was reading. Edit, it was on here, if you search for it, it should bring the thread up 👍 I found a thread from Feb 2019 in which a couple of posters say they sent the guns back as they kept jamming. I saw the review by TGS, but there is also a review from Buffalo in the States (where the gun is sold as Tristar Viper). He shoots it and put some heavy loads through it first and appeared to have no problems afterwards. Could it be that it's simply people not following the recommendations to break the gun in properly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted November 27, 2020 Report Share Posted November 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Shadowchaser said: I found a thread from Feb 2019 in which a couple of posters say they sent the guns back as they kept jamming. I saw the review by TGS, but there is also a review from Buffalo in the States (where the gun is sold as Tristar Viper). He shoots it and put some heavy loads through it first and appeared to have no problems afterwards. Could it be that it's simply people not following the recommendations to break the gun in properly? Yeah I saw the buffalo one also. Could be the problem, I was just surprised when you said you'd seen a new one that was all as I not seen anything on them for a while. Hope all goes well if you do purchase it 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkey Posted November 27, 2020 Report Share Posted November 27, 2020 I had one for a short time I used various 3” shells and had the gun pull off the brass and pop the primers out of the shell it was a nice single shot gun Not a multi shot I spoke to the importers they told me to send it back to them for a refund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowchaser Posted November 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2020 20 hours ago, Donkey said: I had one for a short time I used various 3” shells and had the gun pull off the brass and pop the primers out of the shell it was a nice single shot gun Not a multi shot I spoke to the importers they told me to send it back to them for a Interestingly I had a look at the importers website today and couldn't find a listing for the .410. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowchaser Posted November 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 I emailed the importers at the weekend and received a prompt reply this morning. They withdrew the gun from sale as the CIP spec ammo commonly used did not work well enough with the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciurus Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 How about a Mossberg pump- 3 shot. Light gun, takes 3 inch cartridges (& smaller) ejects, safety, very simple to disassemble. Reasonably priced and fun to use. The Hushpower version is a lot more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowchaser Posted November 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, Sciurus said: How about a Mossberg pump- 3 shot. Light gun, takes 3 inch cartridges (& smaller) ejects, safety, very simple to disassemble. Reasonably priced and fun to use. The Hushpower version is a lot more expensive. I have looked into them. I thought the semi would be faster and has a certain novelty factor. I'm going to look into the Remington 410 auto, though the company has gone under Im sure there will some available and I haven't heard of reliability issues with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Shadowchaser said: I have looked into them. I thought the semi would be faster and has a certain novelty factor. I'm going to look into the Remington 410 auto, though the company has gone under Im sure there will some available and I haven't heard of reliability issues with them. Would the cr8 be an alternative if you have no luck with the Remington? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Shadowchaser said: I have looked into them. I thought the semi would be faster and has a certain novelty factor. I'm going to look into the Remington 410 auto, though the company has gone under Im sure there will some available and I haven't heard of reliability issues with them. I'd like a .410 semi just for fun, and have found both the Armsan and the Remington 1100 to be rare but the Remington is a fair bit more expensive. Very nice, though! Mossberg have released the SA-410 in the states, but no sign that its coming over here yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowchaser Posted November 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Farmboy91 said: Would the cr8 be an alternative if you have no luck with the Remington? Possibly but not sure if a 28ga would be a bit too much gun for what I need it for. 14 minutes ago, Spoon said: I'd like a .410 semi just for fun, and have found both the Armsan and the Remington 1100 to be rare but the Remington is a fair bit more expensive. Very nice, though! Mossberg have released the SA-410 in the states, but no sign that its coming over here yet. Indeed I think at least twice the price of the Armsan. I saw the Mossberg auto when researching but as you say no sign of a UK release. I imagine Mossberg would be spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Shadowchaser said: Possibly but not sure if a 28ga would be a bit too much gun for what I need it for. Ahh ok 👍 Shame we're so limited on choice when it comes to small bore auto's. Bernardelli do a semi auto garden gun but they are like hens teeth and the ones I have seen were all sec1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowchaser Posted November 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 29 minutes ago, Farmboy91 said: Ahh ok 👍 Shame we're so limited on choice when it comes to small bore auto's. Bernardelli do a semi auto garden gun but they are like hens teeth and the ones I have seen were all sec1. Plenty of 410 pump actions and o/u or sbs available, but only what, 3 companies have made an auto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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