Mr.T Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, Vince Green said: Nothing in life is 100% but thats no excuse not to be vaccinated. That’s not quite correct death is 100% guaranteed, also they still don’t know what effects to the human body this vaccine will have in 12, 18 or 24 months If we need to keep having Covid vaccinations every year what does that do to the natural immune system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Mr.T said: That’s not quite correct death is 100% guaranteed, also they still don’t know what effects to the human body this vaccine will have in 12, 18 or 24 months If we need to keep having Covid vaccinations every year what does that do to the natural immune system? What's the flu jab every year do to the natural immune system, nothing that i am aware of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartc44 Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) I'll say it again, they haven't gone through full testing, "The decision to approve the supply of this vaccine was taken under Regulation 174 of the Human Medicine Regulations 2012, which enables rapid temporary regulatory approvals to address significant public health issues such as a pandemic." https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-medicines-regulator-gives-approval-for-first-uk-covid-19-vaccine The flu vaccine is very different to the mrna vaccines, never been used before in humans, and NOT gone through full testing. Very good reasons not to have the vaccine. Edited March 16, 2021 by stuartc44 edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.T Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, ordnance said: What's the flu jab every year do to the natural immune system, nothing that i am aware of. But the flu vaccine was tested for some years before it was released, this Covid jab has only been around since back end of 2020 so It’s not the same thing, otherwise why did they need to develop a separate vaccine ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, stuartc44 said: I'll say it again, they haven't gone through full testing, "The decision to approve the supply of this vaccine was taken under Regulation 174 of the Human Medicine Regulations 2012, which enables rapid temporary regulatory approvals to address significant public health issues such as a pandemic." https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-medicines-regulator-gives-approval-for-first-uk-covid-19-vaccine The flu vaccine is very different to the mrna vaccines, never been used before in humans, and NOT gone through full testing. Very good reasons not to have the vaccine. Just out of curiosity, and not looking for a bun fight . How long would you think would be a suitable time to wait for full human testing , before the vaccine hit the streets . Please try to answer in , weeks , months ,or , years , just so that I can get a grasp of your thinking 👍. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartc44 Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 Mrna vaccines never before used therefore no knowledge of long term problems, with temporary regulatory approval and producers have imunity from legal liability. Not quite how it was advertised on the news is it? How long? That's down to the uk medicines regulator, when they give it full approval I'll consider taking the vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, stuartc44 said: Mrna vaccines never before used therefore no knowledge of long term problems, with temporary regulatory approval and producers have imunity from legal liability. Not quite how it was advertised on the news is it? How long? That's down to the uk medicines regulator, when they give it full approval I'll consider taking the vaccine. I thought it was common knowledge, and reported in most media outlets. Quote So the government could authorise the supply of an unlicensed Covid-19 vaccine, although, to be clear, unlicensed does not mean untested. Any Covid-19 vaccine rolled out to the public, unlicensed or not, will still go through clinical trials. Edited March 16, 2021 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartc44 Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 As clinical trials normally take 5+ years the mrna vaccines cannot have gone through the full testing necesary to get full approval, which is why they have temporary approval. They have gone through clinical trials but not enough to satisfy the uk medicines regulator or they would have fully approved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 hours ago, stuartc44 said: I'll say it again, they haven't gone through full testing, "The decision to approve the supply of this vaccine was taken under Regulation 174 of the Human Medicine Regulations 2012, which enables rapid temporary regulatory approvals to address significant public health issues such as a pandemic." https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-medicines-regulator-gives-approval-for-first-uk-covid-19-vaccine The flu vaccine is very different to the mrna vaccines, never been used before in humans, and NOT gone through full testing. Very good reasons not to have the vaccine. How old are you ... ? it won't take that long with reliable stats to work out what chance of being hospitalised when you get Covid. (1 in 10 if you're in your 50's I think?) Compare those odds against what you think a vaccine cock up may bring ... do you seriously think it'll be 10%? Just play the numbers ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, stuartc44 said: As clinical trials normally take 5+ years the mrna vaccines cannot have gone through the full testing necesary to get full approval, which is why they have temporary approval. They have gone through clinical trials but not enough to satisfy the uk medicines regulator or they would have fully approved it. We know the side effects of Covid, possible death and life time illnesses. Heart. Imaging tests taken months after recovery from COVID-19 have shown lasting damage to the heart muscle, even in people who experienced only mild COVID-19 symptoms. This may increase the risk of heart failure or other heart complications in the future. Lungs. The type of pneumonia often associated with COVID-19 can cause long-standing damage to the tiny air sacs (alveoli) in the lungs. The resulting scar tissue can lead to long-term breathing problems. Brain. Even in young people, COVID-19 can cause strokes, seizures and Guillain-Barre syndrome — a condition that causes temporary paralysis. COVID-19 may also increase the risk of developing Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartc44 Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 Where did you get 1 in 10 from. I am playing the numbers, from what stats I have seen I'll wait thankyou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 On the news today, but it won't take long to find on the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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