Jeremy Winters Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 Hi all, does anyone know a rough price for buying exclusive shooting rights over land is per acre? I know this varies a lot with location, but I'm after a general ballpark - the land is about 650 acers in mid/south Wales including shooting, stalking and fishing rights. Also, does anyone know what rights you've got if you own just the shooting rights - I know you can take game etc., but what about habitat preservation? I'm not talking about cover crops necessarily, but I'd like to make sure the landowner doesn't turn round and cut down the woods and bulldoze the ponds/marshes to make bigger fields as soon as the purchase goes through! Many thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 I have looked at some in the past (5 years ago) that included 5 acres of woodland that could be used for breeding pens. Land was around 200 acres and the price was £75000. This was in Herefordshire. There were no rights to do anything other than shoot over the land. Game and deer were solely down to the holder of the rights. Vermin control was a right of the land owner so may be done by a third party. The land owner had full right to change the land use as he saw fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 Cost could vary from hundreds to millions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 33 minutes ago, Jeremy Winters said: Hi all, does anyone know a rough price for buying exclusive shooting rights over land is per acre? I know this varies a lot with location, but I'm after a general ballpark - the land is about 650 acers in mid/south Wales including shooting, stalking and fishing rights. Also, does anyone know what rights you've got if you own just the shooting rights - I know you can take game etc., but what about habitat preservation? I'm not talking about cover crops necessarily, but I'd like to make sure the landowner doesn't turn round and cut down the woods and bulldoze the ponds/marshes to make bigger fields as soon as the purchase goes through! Many thanks! If you want to tie things up in a formal let agreement - it will cost a fortune via agents and law firms. If possible strike up an informal agreement whereby the old fashioned ‘folding stuff’ changes pockets once or twice a year. There isn’t any tax liability on you and if game habitat is degraded you can walk away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 Its value is, as others have said, is anything from a few pounds to thousands. Impossible to say without seeing the land, but I'll take a punt and say upwards of £500/acre plus VAT. Standard Sporting Rights give the owner no control over the land. If you want that you would need to have it tied up in the purchase agreement and expect to pay considerably more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Winters Posted April 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 On 13/04/2022 at 14:44, CharlieT said: Its value is, as others have said, is anything from a few pounds to thousands. Impossible to say without seeing the land, but I'll take a punt and say upwards of £500/acre plus VAT. Standard Sporting Rights give the owner no control over the land. If you want that you would need to have it tied up in the purchase agreement and expect to pay considerably more. Thanks for the replies all, they’ve been helpful! Is the purchase of shooting rights subject to VAT then? I assumed it would be similar to the purchase of a property and so have no VAT implication, but perhaps a capital gain if they were ever resold for more… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted April 15, 2022 Report Share Posted April 15, 2022 12 hours ago, Jeremy Winters said: Thanks for the replies all, they’ve been helpful! Is the purchase of shooting rights subject to VAT then? I assumed it would be similar to the purchase of a property and so have no VAT implication, but perhaps a capital gain if they were ever resold for more… The standard rate of VAT applies to the sale of sporting rights where those rights are sold away from the land, see VAT Notice 742 (6.1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 I pay £3:50 +vat an acre From local estate to rent for one year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHenry Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 4 hours ago, deershooter said: I pay £3:50 +vat an acre From local estate to rent for one year Sorry to the OP for hijacking this, but could you give a breakdown of what that covers? Type of land / topography, pens, how many acres, what quarry species, etc? It would be really interesting to know - but off the top of my head it sounds like you have an absolute bargain on your hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 On 16/04/2022 at 18:00, PeterHenry said: Sorry to the OP for hijacking this, but could you give a breakdown of what that covers? Type of land / topography, pens, how many acres, what quarry species, etc? It would be really interesting to know - but off the top of my head it sounds like you have an absolute bargain on your hands. 460 acres ,all game ducks pheasant partridge,hares vermin pigeons rabbits and muntjacs ,mixed grass land used for cattle,normal crops wheat barley osr small amount of woodland river runs through most , our own pens and we pay tennent farmer compensation for cover crop planting 3 by £90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHenry Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 On 18/04/2022 at 00:08, deershooter said: 460 acres ,all game ducks pheasant partridge,hares vermin pigeons rabbits and muntjacs ,mixed grass land used for cattle,normal crops wheat barley osr small amount of woodland river runs through most , our own pens and we pay tennent farmer compensation for cover crop planting 3 by £90 👍 - sounds like a great deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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