paul1966 Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 whilst waiting for the plod to sort out my sgc i am doing some research on guns in my price range, which is £300-500. i know in this price range i am looking mainly at second hand guns but being a newby i don't want to end up buying something that's **** basically. so i am after some idea as to what guns are best to be avoided, or even better a list of makes starting from the most desirable to the least if you see what i mean. i am going to be using it on clays only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 Beretta 68 Series Miroku MK 38 Baikal Model 27 Lincoln Premier Bettinsoli Diamond Line Not all are specifically clay guns, but if you shoot them straight you'll hit them. Or get an Escort or an AL391, and have a semi for all occasions - that's more than your wife will be happy with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1966 Posted October 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 any opinions on lanbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 any opinions on lanbers? Yep they are a good gun for the money. The sporter is spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonsey Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 The Browning Medallist is an excellent gun and very good value. I've just been to buy one with my friends 16 year old son. Not knowing anything about them I used this site to search for reviews to find what people thought about them. Based on that we went to buy it and I have to say it's a lovely gun. Brand new it was £641. I'm very impressed with it, it's sat in my cabinet now, we're just going through the transfer process for him now. DevilishDave wrote an excellent review on it, he uses the gun for all his shooting not just clays. It's wood effect but still looks great. Whilst we were in the shop my friends son held a number of guns and this one went straight into his shoulder a treat and his sight down the barrel was spot on. The only thing I would say is it's slightly barrel heavy but not massively so. All in all I am very impressed with it. If I was you, I go to a gun shop and do a bit of window shopping, try dry mounting a couple of them see which one is good for you. Write them down and then do a search on this site for reviews. I'm sure you'll find some words of wisdom on here. We can suggest lots of really great guns but you need to go and try some out in the shop. When I was buying my gun someone suggested a DT10 for me, so I went to the shop, mounted the gun and the comb was too low and I couldn't see down the barrels, that was the same with a couple of others. I tried a Miroku and it was just right. After a gun fit it was perfect. Go and try some, it's fun and you'll get some great advice. Jonsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff36 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 (I'll probaly get slated for this post) IMHO If you are just starting out with your budget and are unsure which way you are going to go then I would purchase a second hand single trigger O/U Baikal. For 200 pounds you will get a good condition O/U with two sets of barrels 28" (skeet) and 30" (sporting) all nicely wrapped up in a case, (probaly with a cleaning kit thrown in). What cash you have left will buy you the important things like ear protection, glasses, vest and a cap. There is very little difference between a 2,000 pound berretta and a 200 pound baikal, if you are pointing in the right place the clay is going to break. and the plus side is what ever you pay for a second hand baikal you will get back when you sell. They are also extremely reliable!!! Good luck whatever you choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Hard to argue with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I have just invested in a Bettinsoli Super Sport for me and my Son to shoot the odd clay with but mainly hunting, have had it about half a year, and cant fault it so far. Dont jnow wethere it was gun fit or something else but eversince I changed from the Berretta Semi-Auto I had to this, me and my Son can shoot the pigeons alot better. Would recommend it as a first time gun. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I have the supersport....cant fault it.....superb gun for the money. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 any opinions on lanbers? I do most of my field shooting with a 30 in Lanber sporter and for the money it is a superb little gun. Depends on what you want really. It was a choice between a Lanber or a Bettinsoli, but I find the Bet's a bit overdecorated for my liking. ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windknot Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 I agree on the Bettinsoli- it's a cracking gun, and with chromed steel proof barrels it's pretty versatile. The only thing I can fault mine on is the engraving- it's a bit OTT. But then, I don't have to look at the gun when I'm shooting it! Having said that, I recently picked up a Miroku 3800 trap gun for a reasonable sum, and it's a decent sporter as long as I remember that it shoots higher than the Bettinsoli, and that those tight chokes don't leave much room for error. So keep an eye out for pre-loved Mirokus too- if I get a decent bonus this year I'm trading the Bettinsoli in on a MK60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windknot Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Oh, and Zapp- you're right about Bono. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardy Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 My opinion is that, like so many things, there is no right answer to your question. Everyone is different & what works for one doesnt for another. My advice would be to get around as many different shooting grounds as possible & try thier club guns (and any others you can!). This is not only a fun thing to do but will expose you to lots of different guns & the differences can be very marked. Before upgrading my gun last year I did pretty much that - except I just had a go with as many friends guns at my shooting ground as poss. As a result I narrowed it down to 2, dismissing some very expensive options because they just didn't feel right. I ended up with a cynergy black ice - friends who have tried it are mixed in thier opinion, its a love it or hate it gun, but it works for me. Good luck in your search & have fund getting there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08shooter Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 winchester 101 or 6500 range. great guns well balanced and if well looked after will last a long time.i would also agree with elvis the bettinsoli are good guns and probably more readily available as the winnys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blowfelt Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 (I'll probaly get slated for this post) IMHO If you are just starting out with your budget and are unsure which way you are going to go then I would purchase a second hand single trigger O/U Baikal. For 200 pounds you will get a good condition O/U with two sets of barrels 28" (skeet) and 30" (sporting) all nicely wrapped up in a case, (probaly with a cleaning kit thrown in). What cash you have left will buy you the important things like ear protection, glasses, vest and a cap. There is very little difference between a 2,000 pound berretta and a 200 pound baikal, if you are pointing in the right place the clay is going to break. and the plus side is what ever you pay for a second hand baikal you will get back when you sell. They are also extremely reliable!!! Good luck whatever you choose. I agree with Griff, they may be cheap but dont underestimate baikal power. but on the other hand if your serious about the sport i would get something a little better to start with, id go for a bettinsoli, looks and shoots good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 With multichoke guns being available, you don't need a separate gun for each discipline (unless you are deadly serious), so I would concentrate on the gun weight and fit that suits you. Any new gun you buy will be fit for purpose and with care, will last at least a lifetime. A secondhand gun may have had a hard life that is not immediately apparent, but if brought from a Gunshop, it should have been checked out and carry a guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1966 Posted October 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 thanks for the replies so far, gave me allot to think about. the club gun i have been using is a 30 inch Miroku i think its a mk70?. it seems to fit me quite well and i hit a fair few clays with it, not sure if the second hand price is in my budget? as regards buying my first gun would i be best to buy from a gun smiths, not sure what the mark up is when buying from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonshooter76 Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 ive got single trigger O/U Baikal with selectvie trigger i love its had plenty of rabbits and woodys it only cost me 150 from livens in burton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windknot Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Paul, It might be worth your while asking around at the club once you have your SGC- there's always a fair amount of horse trading going on in any club, and you're likely to get what you're after. And you'll usually get it for a decent price too. Alternatively you could keep an eye on the PW classifieds, or place an ad in the wanted section. guntrader.co.uk is also a good way to find a gun, or at least to get an idea how much a given gun may be worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 If you've been shooting a Miroku, maybe stick with the make. look on a website like UK gunroom. I've got a secondhand Miroku and am very happy with it. UK gunroom will also help you find a gun dealer in your area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucent Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 I would avoid buying anything you are going to grow out of within 6 months like the Betisoli. Better to ship in a second hand Beretta like the white Onyx or 686. Good luck with your choice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Best thing to do is go to a gun shop and find a type of gun that fits your body type. Get them to check your eye dominance while you are there. Most gun shops are helpful without forcing a sale. Then keep an eye on the various websites for second hand models that you know will be comfortable without much adjustment. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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