ordnance Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) Quote Why do I need to be aware of what others are doing regarding testing? No its just a strange thing to say, obviously in a country of country of around 60 million people some will still be testing. Quote Scully I wasn’t aware people were still testing . Edited August 30, 2023 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 Just now, ordnance said: No its just a strange thing to say, obviously in a country of country of around 60 million people some will be testing. . Quite probably, but why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, Scully said: Why do I need to be aware of what others are doing regarding testing? We threw ours out. I mean ‘why’ are you testing? It’s entirely up to the individual of course, I just don’t see the point. 🤷♂️ To avoid infecting my 87 year old mother and 90 year old FIL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Scully said: Quite probably, but why? Maybe so they can take precautions not to pass it on to others for who it could be dangerous. For example my friend and his wife were having elderly grandparents round for dinner, both of them had flu like symptoms they took the test and both were positive so dinner was put off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 I get the not wanting to infect elderly relatives, I just don’t get the obsession with testing. It doesn’t achieve anything. I can only assume that in the absence of a test some folk are willing to give elderly relatives flu? Before covid, no one needed a test to decide that giving what you thought was the onset of flu to elderly relatives a bad idea, we just relied on common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 Quote I get the not wanting to infect elderly relatives, I just don’t get the obsession with testing. It doesn’t achieve anything. Covid can give cold like symptoms, so i would rather know what i had then i could then make decisions based on that knowledge. But if you see no point fine if others do also fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 37 minutes ago, ordnance said: Covid can give cold like symptoms, so i would rather know what i had then i could then make decisions based on that knowledge. But if you see no point fine if others do also fine. Just like the common cold you can be infectious for days prior to showing symptoms, so by the time you’ve tested you could already have infected many. 🤷♂️ That’s why there’s no point; it’s too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted August 31, 2023 Report Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Scully said: I get the not wanting to infect elderly relatives, I just don’t get the obsession with testing. It doesn’t achieve anything. I can only assume that in the absence of a test some folk are willing to give elderly relatives flu? Before covid, no one needed a test to decide that giving what you thought was the onset of flu to elderly relatives a bad idea, we just relied on common sense. No I wouldn't pass on Flu either knowingly, I didn't have Flu like symptoms. No temperature. Edited August 31, 2023 by Weihrauch17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, Scully said: Just like the common cold you can be infectious for days prior to showing symptoms, so by the time you’ve tested you could already have infected many. 🤷♂️ That’s why there’s no point; it’s too late. You could be going somewhere when having symptoms, knowing it was a cold or Covid could influence your decision. You don't have to see what the point is, people can decide for themselves. Edited September 1, 2023 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 4 hours ago, ordnance said: You could be going somewhere when having symptoms, knowing it was a cold or Covid could influence your decision. You don't have to see what the point is, people can decide for themselves. Indeed. But you may have infected numerous folk before you experienced symptoms, making your decision irrelevant dependant on whom you are visiting and the result of a test. 🤷♂️ Like I said, pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 On 30/08/2023 at 12:06, Bigbob said: but there saying its changed again and is just like a heavy cold now Always was, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 9 hours ago, Newbie to this said: Always was, right? Rubbish, thousand in the UK have ended up in intensive care with Covid, that doesn't happen with the cold 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 21 hours ago, Scully said: Indeed. But you may have infected numerous folk before you experienced symptoms, making your decision irrelevant dependant on whom you are visiting and the result of a test. 🤷♂️ Like I said, pointless. Yes you could have infected numerous folk before experiencing symptoms nothing you can do about that, but on have symptoms that could be a cold or Covid knowing could give you chance to take precautions not to infect more. So i would see infecting ten people better that infecting 20, but again its peoples choice thay can take a test or not, that does not depent on wheather you see the point or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 hour ago, ordnance said: Yes you could have infected numerous folk before experiencing symptoms nothing you can do about that, but on have symptoms that could be a cold or Covid knowing could give you chance to take precautions not to infect more. So i would see infecting ten people better that infecting 20, but again its peoples choice thay can take a test or not, that does not depent on wheather you see the point or not. Eh? None of that makes sense. So it’s ok to infect some but not others while you decide you have symptoms or not? If folk are so anal about not infecting others to the extent they’re still testing, then they should be wearing surgical masks as part of their daily routine, and that isn’t even an obligation in GP’s surgeries nor hospitals. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Scully said: Eh? None of that makes sense. So it’s ok to infect some but not others while you decide you have symptoms or not? If folk are so anal about not infecting others to the extent they’re still testing, then they should be wearing surgical masks as part of their daily routine, and that isn’t even an obligation in GP’s surgeries nor hospitals. 🤷♂️ Some infections infections can't be avoided, but if you have symptons take a test and find its Covid you can if you wish take action to avoid infecting others, it's not a difficult concept to grasp. And as i keep on saying people will make their own decessions weather it makes sense to you or not, why do you even care what other people do if its not affecting you. Edited September 2, 2023 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, ordnance said: Some infections infections can't be avoided, but if you have symptons take a test and find its Covid you can if you wish take action to avoid infecting others. It's not a difficult concept to grasp. And as i keep on saying people will make their own decessions, weather it makes sense to you or not, why do you even care what other people do. I don’t care; I’m just saying testing is pointless and totally illogical unless you’re going to carry on as we did in lockdown. If folk aren’t prepared to do that then testing is totally pointless. That’s not too difficult to grasp either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) Quote If folk are so anal about not infecting others to the extent they’re still testing, then they should be wearing surgical masks as part of their daily routine, and that isn’t even an obligation in GP’s surgeries nor hospitals. That's like saying if you are so anal about not being injured in a car accident that you wear a seat belt, you should wearing a crash hemlet crash hemlet as well or not even drive. Edited September 2, 2023 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Scully said: Eh? None of that makes sense. So it’s ok to infect some but not others while you decide you have symptoms or not? If folk are so anal about not infecting others to the extent they’re still testing, then they should be wearing surgical masks as part of their daily routine, and that isn’t even an obligation in GP’s surgeries nor hospitals. 🤷♂️ Just to pick one point of this, and point out an observation.... I'm just getting through a chest infection. Managed to get to see a duty nurse at my surgery. I was coughing a lot and did so right in her face [for which I apologised]. She didn't even flinch ! I had no request to wear a mask and COVID wasn't even mentioned,,,, go figure 🤷😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 11 hours ago, ordnance said: That's like saying if you are so anal about not being injured in a car accident that you wear a seat belt, you should wearing a crash hemlet crash hemlet as well or not even drive. Well not really. People ( in the instances we’re discussing here ) have taken tests to avoid infecting others, whereas you wear a seat belt to avoid injuring yourself, plus the fact we are obliged to wear a seat belt by law, and it’s far from pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 11 hours ago, JKD said: Just to pick one point of this, and point out an observation.... I'm just getting through a chest infection. Managed to get to see a duty nurse at my surgery. I was coughing a lot and did so right in her face [for which I apologised]. She didn't even flinch ! I had no request to wear a mask and COVID wasn't even mentioned,,,, go figure 🤷😆 Quite. OH’s Mam has just had a knee replaced; hospital didn’t mention testing for covid but were very keen she didn’t bring MSRA into the hospital. She had to follow a set regime for several days prior to admission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 15 hours ago, ordnance said: Rubbish, thousand in the UK have ended up in intensive care with Covid, that doesn't happen with the cold 🙄 Are you sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 On 03/09/2023 at 10:41, Newbie to this said: Are you sure? Do you think the doctors nurses etc working in intensive care are making it up 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted September 8, 2023 Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 7 hours ago, ordnance said: Do you think the doctors nurses etc working in intensive care are making it up 🤔 No, do you? Colds help kill many people every year, mainly old and those with underlying health issues, same as covid did/does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 (edited) On 08/09/2023 at 19:02, Newbie to this said: No, do you? Colds help kill many people every year, mainly old and those with underlying health issues, same as covid did/does. How many people are admitted to hospital or die with the with the common cold very few i would suggest. But if you can't handle reality and want to bury your head in the sand feel free. Quote The number of hospital admissions for Covid-19 was colossal during the first two outbreaks of the pandemic and rose to over 70,000 in January 2021. Edited September 10, 2023 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 9 hours ago, ordnance said: How many people are admitted to hospital or die with the with the common cold very few i would suggest. But if you can't handle reality and want to bury your head in the sand feel free. 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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