ASDA: Anti's have a new target.

[Guest raymond1]

I have seen a cow killed with a huge knife in a halal slaughter house in the uk (on tv).

In one movement the cow was a gonner and it's head almost came off. The throat was cut and it lost so much blood so fast that within seconds I don't think it would have been concious.

 

I think ASDA should have a pat on the back for this.

 

Harry

now i know why they call you dirty harry, i bet the local imam has put his own teeth marks in the back of your neck !

[henry d]

The problem I think that most people who have a "thing" against anyone who comes from another country and settles here is that the bile is wrongly directed, the reason you HAVE to be more tolerant is due to EU regulations and the drive of "human resources" .

The EU in it`s wisdom decided that people who were in a minority, should have a better deal in life.

Take a moment and think about that, those who are disadvantaged and likely to be persecuted, were to have things made a little better for them. That means instead of having problems and being down-trodden, were given a little preference and were allowed to better themselves and become better citizens and contribute more to society in general.

However some people are happy to live of the backs of others and as such will add little to society. These people will get into a spiral of conformity about a norm that exists about generous handouts and accessible benefits which the working tax payers have funded.

Is it right.......No of course not, the above, apart from the EU bit was basically the welfare state in the UK, however it was a VERY necessary thing at the time and a reliance on such has made a rod for our own backs.

 

Can you blame anyone coming from an oppressive society or indeed from a country with a depressed GDP to go to a country with it`s doors wide open.

 

People saw this with the USA many years ago and now we have migrants entering the UK, as with the USA there will be problems but all things are fluid.

 

People see things in a small snapshot in time and don`t see what may happen for their grandchildren. Have a look at some of FM`s posts and see how the eyes of just a generation or two ahead sees your vision of Britain without the bigotry and intolerance that was prevalent when people assumed that another skin colour/religion was a bad thing.

[sidibear]

So I take it near you in Perthshire there are not many "oppressed" immigrants from another country who spit and drop rubbish and food in the street. Dump waste on the pavement over there garden wall. Turn the area into such a ****heap that you are resorted to shooting rats with a 12 bore because of the state of the place. All the local traders closed their shops and moved out only for "the oppressed" to take over them selling saris and other stuff that white western people don't want, Who take over the local school to the extent that young white kids know more about the koran than they do about the christian church. And the local petrol station makes bikers remove their helmets and chavs remove their caps before they serve them but a full face veil is ok from a security point of view.

 

Because if there was, I am sure you would think differently about these oppressed visitors from another land.

 

Go and visit an inner city and see the truth for yourself.

[auto culto]

So I take it near you in Perthshire there are not many "oppressed" immigrants from another country who spit and drop rubbish and food in the street. Dump waste on the pavement over there garden wall. Turn the area into such a ****heap that you are resorted to shooting rats with a 12 bore because of the state of the place. All the local traders closed their shops and moved out only for "the oppressed" to take over them selling saris and other stuff that white western people don't want, Who take over the local school to the extent that young white kids know more about the koran than they do about the christian church. And the local petrol station makes bikers remove their helmets and chavs remove their caps before they serve them but a full face veil is ok from a security point of view.

 

Because if there was, I am sure you would think differently about these oppressed visitors from another land.

 

Go and visit an inner city and see the truth for yourself.

 

 

Leicester then

[henry d]

So I take it near you in Perthshire there are not many "oppressed" immigrants from another country who spit and drop rubbish and food in the street. Dump waste on the pavement over there garden wall. Turn the area into such a ****heap that you are resorted to shooting rats with a 12 bore because of the state of the place. All the local traders closed their shops and moved out only for "the oppressed" to take over them selling saris and other stuff that white western people don't want, Who take over the local school to the extent that young white kids know more about the koran than they do about the christian church. And the local petrol station makes bikers remove their helmets and chavs remove their caps before they serve them but a full face veil is ok from a security point of view.

 

Because if there was, I am sure you would think differently about these oppressed visitors from another land.

 

Go and visit an inner city and see the truth for yourself.

 

 

It`s nice, or stupid, depending on which way you look at this, that you seem to have taken me for someone who has lived in a small town in a large county all my life.

 

I grew up in the back streets of Benwell in Newcastle in the early `60`s I then joined the RN and saw the world from a muslim perspective Djibouti and the Gulf states to Pakistan and to a lesser extent, India and Sri Lanka.

I also spent a lot of time in Portsmouth and Plymouth, not too large but still big cities.

 

Now back to sunny Scotland.........I have a neighbour, I live on a council estate, she has 3 waste bins now, but before that she dumped her waste from a small Cafe she owns on the street. Last night I didn`t get pelted by stones any ethnic minorities for stopping their bonfire burning their neighbours fence, nor did I get any fireworks fired at me by any ethnic minorities just for a laugh.

 

As for your statement "Who take over the local school to the extent that young white kids know more about the koran than they do about the christian church." do you mean that they took over the school or that the young white kids paid more attention to their lessons ??

 

Finally can you give me your S/G number and licensing authority so that I can send them your details as an unfit person to hold a S/G certificate............unless you live in a rural area next to a muslim farmer ??

[Zapp]

So I take it near you in Perthshire there are not many "oppressed" immigrants from another country who spit and drop rubbish and food in the street. Dump waste on the pavement over there garden wall. Turn the area into such a ****heap....

 

This sounds like where I live. The only thing is, there are hardly any immigrants - the local born-and-bred white yoof are doing an admirable job of turning the area into a cesspit. Nor do I suspect that members of the immigrant community came over from Wellingborough and did £450 worth of damage to my car, or £200 to my wifes. Further, I didnt see any hallmarks of the local Taliban when my bins were set fire to, or when eggs were thrown at my windows last night. Dont want to trot out the old "good and bad in every society" line, but reading some of what is getting posted on this thread made me check I hadnt accidentally logged into 'The Sun says' webpage.

 

ZB

[lurcherboy]

I never thought I would ever do a post like this but here goes.

 

Thank you PETA for putting all those vids out there and everyone here should watch them

 

I still think your misguided on a lot of things though.

 

 

 

 

LB

[Blackbart]

So I take it near you in Perthshire there are not many "oppressed" immigrants from another country who spit and drop rubbish and food in the street. Dump waste on the pavement over there garden wall. Turn the area into such a ****heap that you are resorted to shooting rats with a 12 bore because of the state of the place. All the local traders closed their shops and moved out only for "the oppressed" to take over them selling saris and other stuff that white western people don't want, Who take over the local school to the extent that young white kids know more about the koran than they do about the christian church. And the local petrol station makes bikers remove their helmets and chavs remove their caps before they serve them but a full face veil is ok from a security point of view.

 

Because if there was, I am sure you would think differently about these oppressed visitors from another land.

 

Go and visit an inner city and see the truth for yourself.

 

 

It`s nice, or stupid, depending on which way you look at this, that you seem to have taken me for someone who has lived in a small town in a large county all my life.

 

I grew up in the back streets of Benwell in Newcastle in the early `60`s I then joined the RN and saw the world from a muslim perspective Djibouti and the Gulf states to Pakistan and to a lesser extent, India and Sri Lanka.

I also spent a lot of time in Portsmouth and Plymouth, not too large but still big cities.

 

Now back to sunny Scotland.........I have a neighbour, I live on a council estate, she has 3 waste bins now, but before that she dumped her waste from a small Cafe she owns on the street. Last night I didn`t get pelted by stones any ethnic minorities for stopping their bonfire burning their neighbours fence, nor did I get any fireworks fired at me by any ethnic minorities just for a laugh.

 

As for your statement "Who take over the local school to the extent that young white kids know more about the koran than they do about the christian church." do you mean that they took over the school or that the young white kids paid more attention to their lessons ??

 

Finally can you give me your S/G number and licensing authority so that I can send them your details as an unfit person to hold a S/G certificate............unless you live in a rural area next to a muslim farmer ??

 

Henry i think you are misguided on this one,you can not compare where you live to birmingham,yes you have immigrants up there but nothing nowhere near as many as birmingham.They have TAKEN over the schools,shops etc because there is that many of them.Last year i went down to london for the toon v arsenal game and EVERY YES EVERY person i seen was a foreigner,train driver,bus driver,ticket collector,shop keepers,taxi drivers, just imagine walking down perth high street tommorow and not seeing a white person!Most of birmingham is this way too and a lot of the other cities in the midlands.

By the way dont know where abouts you lived in benwell but i used to live in benwell dene terrace and now every single person in that street is an immigrant!

[peter mcn]

I live about 3 miles from the Small Heath Asda, but I would rather drive 16 miles to Coventry Arena to use the big Tesco.

 

Not that Asda is bad, its just that the Small Heath one is disgusting, wipe your feet when you leave kinda thing

 

 

i live stechford u cant b far from me so are the muslims every other week we get leaflets trough door askin us 2 sell our property its jus not on there scum but they do attrack rats which i like 2 shoot

[peter mcn]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=alZiSWqPyQI

 

 

 

look at this then decide if its humaine

[junior111111]

So I take it near you in Perthshire there are not many "oppressed" immigrants from another country who spit and drop rubbish and food in the street. Dump waste on the pavement over there garden wall. Turn the area into such a ****heap that you are resorted to shooting rats with a 12 bore because of the state of the place. All the local traders closed their shops and moved out only for "the oppressed" to take over them selling saris and other stuff that white western people don't want, Who take over the local school to the extent that young white kids know more about the koran than they do about the christian church. And the local petrol station makes bikers remove their helmets and chavs remove their caps before they serve them but a full face veil is ok from a security point of view.

 

Because if there was, I am sure you would think differently about these oppressed visitors from another land.

 

Go and visit an inner city and see the truth for yourself.

 

 

It`s nice, or stupid, depending on which way you look at this, that you seem to have taken me for someone who has lived in a small town in a large county all my life.

 

I grew up in the back streets of Benwell in Newcastle in the early `60`s I then joined the RN and saw the world from a muslim perspective Djibouti and the Gulf states to Pakistan and to a lesser extent, India and Sri Lanka.

I also spent a lot of time in Portsmouth and Plymouth, not too large but still big cities.

 

Now back to sunny Scotland.........I have a neighbour, I live on a council estate, she has 3 waste bins now, but before that she dumped her waste from a small Cafe she owns on the street. Last night I didn`t get pelted by stones any ethnic minorities for stopping their bonfire burning their neighbours fence, nor did I get any fireworks fired at me by any ethnic minorities just for a laugh.

 

As for your statement "Who take over the local school to the extent that young white kids know more about the koran than they do about the christian church." do you mean that they took over the school or that the young white kids paid more attention to their lessons ??

 

Finally can you give me your S/G number and licensing authority so that I can send them your details as an unfit person to hold a S/G certificate............unless you live in a rural area next to a muslim farmer ??

mate, wake up smell the coffee,seems "seems like your judgin me as some one from a small town or country lif" well you aint been were we are have you!!!and please do not think for 1 second my friend sidibear is a liar, i live littrely 2 min walk, my kids are 7-6 and 1 and they are the only whites in there school..so yes they have took over the school..you walk down the rd and they look at you like ****e and spit on the floor..me my girlfriend and 3kids live in a 1 bed flat yes 1bed while they move over here and get 4bed houses "is that right"!!!!? they even get cars and phones...there stoppin people like me getting work why i hear well they will work for £2 a hour and i get that signin on but who is going to employ me at £7 a hour when they will work for £2??now the shops, i cant remember the last time i seen a white shop keeper full stop...were i am your lucky to see white people when you walk down the rd..

can i have your s/c certificate info..mate your obviously on a differen planet to us..maybe you should come down here for a while, i promise you, you wouldnt come out your door..we live in the real world and us whites down here are near extinction

[sidibear]

"unless you live in a rural area next to a muslim farmer ??"

 

That would make me fit to hold a license then?

 

I live in the inner city, I would love to live somewhere else but house prices are ridiculous in nice areas.

I have had a SGC for the last 21 years, I had FAC and represented the West Midlands 4 years running in competition. Toured the world, settled down, got married, didn't have time to shoot as much as I wanted.

I used to live on Castle Vale and also Kingshurst, anyone in Birmingham will know these areas and their reputation.

The area where I now live has severly declined in the last 5 years. The school at the end of my street restricted its catchment area in an attempt to keep the school kids local, it was then amazing how many people actually lived in a street of 125 houses, nearly 700 people, just so they could get their kids into the school.

 

I am not judging anyone else or the areas they live in, I get my news online at CNN and the BBC website so my views are not blinkered by trashy sensationalist reporting.

 

And during the last terrorist arrests, 15 people from my area were detained. Now can you see it from my point of view?

[berettaman1]

So I take it near you in Perthshire there are not many "oppressed" immigrants from another country who spit and drop rubbish and food in the street. Dump waste on the pavement over there garden wall. Turn the area into such a ****heap that you are resorted to shooting rats with a 12 bore because of the state of the place. All the local traders closed their shops and moved out only for "the oppressed" to take over them selling saris and other stuff that white western people don't want, Who take over the local school to the extent that young white kids know more about the koran than they do about the christian church. And the local petrol station makes bikers remove their helmets and chavs remove their caps before they serve them but a full face veil is ok from a security point of view.

 

Because if there was, I am sure you would think differently about these oppressed visitors from another land.

 

Go and visit an inner city and see the truth for yourself.

 

 

It`s nice, or stupid, depending on which way you look at this, that you seem to have taken me for someone who has lived in a small town in a large county all my life.

 

I grew up in the back streets of Benwell in Newcastle in the early `60`s I then joined the RN and saw the world from a muslim perspective Djibouti and the Gulf states to Pakistan and to a lesser extent, India and Sri Lanka.

I also spent a lot of time in Portsmouth and Plymouth, not too large but still big cities.

 

Now back to sunny Scotland.........I have a neighbour, I live on a council estate, she has 3 waste bins now, but before that she dumped her waste from a small Cafe she owns on the street. Last night I didn`t get pelted by stones any ethnic minorities for stopping their bonfire burning their neighbours fence, nor did I get any fireworks fired at me by any ethnic minorities just for a laugh.

 

As for your statement "Who take over the local school to the extent that young white kids know more about the koran than they do about the christian church." do you mean that they took over the school or that the young white kids paid more attention to their lessons ??

 

Finally can you give me your S/G number and licensing authority so that I can send them your details as an unfit person to hold a S/G certificate............unless you live in a rural area next to a muslim farmer ??

I am amazed HD that you would want to report Sidibear to get his licence revoked, just because he disagreese with you over the state this country has become, Keep it up Sidibear use what little free speech we are still allowed, you arent on your own bud,

[auto culto]

holy smoke , death, destruction, doom and gloom, drought, distemper, diptheria, dolly parton cd's, sorry ran out of desperate things to drag into the thread.

 

jesus, sounds like Chunk is about to leap of a building there, is there no hope for good old blighty??? bring back the iron maiden i say, Maggie will put it all right.

 

soon be xmas, cheer up then, "its a long way to tipperary, its a long way to go", altogether now

 

Martin

 

 

sorry but i,m with sidlibear on this one. In Leicester nots and derby there are no go areas for pinks unless you want a serious kicking. Even in my town there's been a divide forming for many years now where pinks dont live

[Chard]

holy smoke , death, destruction, doom and gloom, drought, distemper, diptheria, dolly parton cd's, sorry ran out of desperate things to drag into the thread.

 

jesus, sounds like Chunk is about to leap of a building there, is there no hope for good old blighty??? bring back the iron maiden i say, Maggie will put it all right.

 

soon be xmas, cheer up then, "its a long way to tipperary, its a long way to go", altogether now

 

Martin

 

 

sorry but i,m with sidlibear on this one. In Leicester nots and derby there are no go areas for pinks unless you want a serious kicking. Even in my town there's been a divide forming for many years now where pinks dont live

 

 

There's a few parts round Manchester like that too.

 

It's all right for these country gents to be passing judgement on peoples views on immigration. If they ever get to see one, they all stand and stare :lol:

 

Is that one of them there muslings, Fester?

 

Dunno, could be. Heave 'alf a brick at 'im

[LEFTY478]

The thread has now gone somewhat off topic IMO. There are, I believe, two points of discussion.

 

1. Animal welfare

 

2. Regard for the law of the UK:

a. Should an organisation be able to side-step UK law on Religious grounds?

b. Should a retailer be able sell food, which is not produced according to UK law?

 

With regard to point one; slaughter by bleed out, if done correctly causes almost immediate unconsciousness and death with in seconds. As opposed to stunning, which should cause immediate unconsciousness, followed by bleed out causing death with in seconds. ie they are essentially the same, if as said, done correctly.

 

Point two however, is more concerning; As it stands the UK laws says that this practice is not lawful. It should not be happening and that must apply to all parts of the chain involved in the production of UK food. ASDA can hardly be expected to be able to pick and choose which bits of UK law they'd like to observe and dam the rest. We do have a choice, we live in a democracy where the law applies to all and if enough people don't like that law, we can elect PMs that will change that law. Or we can pack up and go somewhere else.

[sidibear]

1. Animal welfare

 

2. Regard for the law of the UK:

a. Should an organisation be able to side-step UK law on Religious grounds?

b. Should a retailer be able sell food, which is not produced according to UK law?

 

Bleed out? Isn't Kosher prepared the same way? That seems to be ok in UK food law so then why should Kosher be ok and not Halal?

 

As for point 2. Retailers have to abide by really strict laws regarding the preparation of food so to be able to bypass that on religious grounds is unreasonable.

[dickybird]

anyone would think that us british had gone into other countries and tried to push our way of life on them