SAVAGE HMR Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 If for any reason you find the thought of squirrels being ripped apart sickening I'd advise against watching this video, it is funny though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Funny, how ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 It's a video of a load of squirrels being ripped apart. Some serious pest control maybe, but not something I would regard as funny. All animals deserve a little respect, no matter how much of a pest they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I agree that grey squirrels need to be controlled, and that shooting is an effective method of control. However I fail to see anything remotley entertaining or "funny" about watching a creature virtually disintegrated. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVAGE HMR Posted November 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 It's slapstick, the 'dueling banjos' type music give it a quirky feel, a bit like a Benny Hill skit, or a Carry On film. Take the music out of Benny Hill and what do you have? Answer: something not very funny! I can see your point cause without the music it could be considered a 'disturbing' video, or perhaps 'disturbing' would be best used to describe the guy who said it was funny. Different folks different strokes! njc110381 I would like to know exactly how when shooting an animal with one of the lowest caliber weapons available to any varmint hunter it is possible to show it more 'respect'? To low a caliber and it could be considered inhumane but use a .223 or .50 and you'd splatter it even more! henry d Morals are morals, I find gore funny. You on the other hand obviously have a fondness for Joseph Conrad, enough so that you would quote his work on your comment. Joseph Conrad was condemned a racist in a post-colonial reading by the Nigerian writer Chinua Achebe who famously criticized his book Heart of Darkness 'the book you quoted' in his 1975 lecture 'An Image of Africa' Saying the novel de-humanised Africans, denied them language and culture, and reduced them to a metaphorical extension of the dark and dangerous jungle into which the Europeans venture. Do you find the literature of a racist author as entertaining as I find gore? Or more importantly, does it really matter? Probably not but if people never stuck up for themselves and never argued their case what kind of world would we live in, probably one controlled by women! I'm not bitching, just pointing out that no matter how hard you try you cant help being hypocritical or having double standards but I'm exactly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest rabgoat Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 is that really a 17hmr doing that damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVAGE HMR Posted November 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 It certainly is, the guys that made the video have a website www.shootingsquirrels.com You have to bare in mind that a .17 HMR travels at a velocity of around about 2550 fps and that little 17 grain round has a muzzle energy is 245 ft-lbs which is a hell of a lot of power for something so small. Add the ballistic tip in to the mix and you have what would effectively be a deep hollow point filled with shrapnel to aid tearing apart of whatever you were shooting it at. You should buy one, their a lot of fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 It certainly is, the guys that made the video have a website www.shootingsquirrels.com You have to bare in mind that a .17 HMR travels at a velocity of around about 2550 fps and that little 17 grain round has a muzzle energy is 245 ft-lbs which is a hell of a lot of power for something so small. Add the ballistic tip in to the mix and you have what would effectively be a deep hollow point filled with shrapnel to aid tearing apart of whatever you were shooting it at. You should buy one, their a lot of fun! I have hit close range squirrel with my HMR and certainly never got any results like that. I very much doubt it is an HMR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 henry dMorals are morals, I find gore funny. You on the other hand obviously have a fondness for Joseph Conrad, enough so that you would quote his work on your comment. Joseph Conrad was condemned a racist in a post-colonial reading by the Nigerian writer Chinua Achebe who famously criticized his book Heart of Darkness 'the book you quoted' in his 1975 lecture 'An Image of Africa' Saying the novel de-humanised Africans, denied them language and culture, and reduced them to a metaphorical extension of the dark and dangerous jungle into which the Europeans venture. Do you find the literature of a racist author as entertaining as I find gore? Or more importantly, does it really matter? Probably not but if people never stuck up for themselves and never argued their case what kind of world would we live in, probably one controlled by women! I'm not bitching, just pointing out that no matter how hard you try you cant help being hypocritical or having double standards but I'm exactly the same. Ah the dangers of "Wikipedia" and copy & paste..................... The quote is indeed from "Heart of Darkness" originally but it was a better quote than Colonel Kurtz`s in Apocalypse Now, which was where I intended it to come from. The reason I used it as a quote is that shortly after I saw it I found myself in the Falklands and was IMHO a fitting context for this the 25th anniversary year of the South Atlantic Campaign. Personally I agree with the tenet that Conrad was more preaching the dangers of colonialism and the way that absolute power and greed corrupts. I also think that there is also a religious undercurrent there too, especially in the film when Chef talks to Willard about dying "I used to think if I died in an evil place, then my soul wouldn't be able to make it to Heaven. But now? ****! I mean, I don't care where it goes, as long as it ain't here." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVAGE HMR Posted November 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 henry d I see, well in that case I retract my last comment. I perhaps maybe shouldn't have read as much in to it. But it would be uncharacteristic to my very nature not to. My Apologies all the same. Craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 No apology required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rabgoat Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 It certainly is, the guys that made the video have a website www.shootingsquirrels.com You have to bare in mind that a .17 HMR travels at a velocity of around about 2550 fps and that little 17 grain round has a muzzle energy is 245 ft-lbs which is a hell of a lot of power for something so small. Add the ballistic tip in to the mix and you have what would effectively be a deep hollow point filled with shrapnel to aid tearing apart of whatever you were shooting it at. You should buy one, their a lot of fun! i have one that's why i don't think it is a hmr in the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 see the slo mo at 25 secs.no hmr that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVAGE HMR Posted November 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 I was just watching some of their other videos, they also use a .223 remington to shoot badgers with 'American badgers'. I've never shot a squirrel with a .223 so I'm not sure what it would do to such a small piece of meat, anyone hazard a guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 I was just watching some of their other videos, they also use a .223 remington to shoot badgers with 'American badgers'. I've never shot a squirrel with a .223 so I'm not sure what it would do to such a small piece of meat, anyone hazard a guess? done a few on the ground with the hornet.there is not a lot left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 I was just watching some of their other videos, they also use a .223 remington to shoot badgers with 'American badgers'. I've never shot a squirrel with a .223 so I'm not sure what it would do to such a small piece of meat, anyone hazard a guess? I have shot Rabbits with a .223 and basically you have 1250ftlbs and 3250 FPS at the muzzle and at a 1000 yds you still have roughly 90 ft lbs and 900 fps at the muzzle ,The same as a .22 subsonic rimfire round ........To come to my point what I'm trying to say is there is not alot of material to absorb such amount of energy when shooting at sensible distances ......I'll let you work out the rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 shot a few squidgies not that long ago with fed 17 BT range was 90yds head and body shots, and none did the explosive thing that the post says, now then do the same with a 22.250 on rabbits at about 100yds with a BT doing 3557 fps well ,you do well to piece together a full rabbit 17 hmr i dont think so some how Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 seen dougy shoot rabbit the other night with his .22 250 and he couldnt even find the rabbit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVAGE HMR Posted November 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 You also have to bare in mind that American squirrels are bigger that native British ones. Apparently everything is bigger in America, maybe their .17 HMR round is bigger to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 seen dougy shoot rabbit the other night with his .22 250 and he couldnt even find the rabbit . ok then it was dark. as it happened i was there at 08.45 the following day and well you wouldn't believe it i found some of it mailnly i think the shoulder's and some of the head. so mr Sparkie i told you that pop was a hit, it happened to be a bit further than we looked, so to put it nicely. up yours :( Oh ps no sighn of the ones you hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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